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Who do you like the most as a realistic pick between 6-8?

Roy_McAvoy

Roy_McAvoy

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The Jazz drafting between #6-#8 seems like far & away the most likely outcome. Who do you like right now as a realistic draft choice in that slot?

For me right now it’s far & away Caleb Wilson. Nate Ament would be a distant 2nd.

With Key’s emergence I don’t want anything to do with Mikel Brown or Kingston Flemings.
 
There's a pretty clear consensus top 4 with Boozer, Dybantsa, Peterson and Wilson in some order. The next tier of talent looks to include Mikel Brown, imo. Flemings is having a standout season and likely belongs in this tier, even if his measurables are a bit on the small side for the NBA.

Ideally, the Jazz would bring in someone who is: a) a standout athlete, b) with plus size/length, c) who plays defense, and d) who handles and moves the ball in a way that complements our wings (Ace/Lauri) and helps unlock Walker at the 5. At this stage, there isn't an obvious guy for me, but my shortlist would include Neo Avadalas, Karim Lopez, Hannes Steinbach and Tounde Yessoufou.

If the Jazz could swing a trade with Charlotte, where the Jazz trade back 2 or 3 spots and also grab the Hornets' pick from the Magic in the teens, I might consider that. I'd be looking for the above mentioned players, plus Carr and Cenac.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Ideally, the Jazz would bring in someone who is: a) a standout athlete, b) with plus size/length, c) who plays defense, and d) who handles and moves the ball in a way that complements our wings (Ace/Lauri) and helps unlock Walker at the 5. At this stage, there isn't an obvious guy for me, but my shortlist would include Neo Avadalas, Karim Lopez, Hannes Steinbach and Tounde Yessoufou.
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If we are talking about someone complementing the lineup of Kessler, Lauri, Ace and Keyonte we obviously need a secondary playmaker. That would be Wilson, Brown, Flemings, Philon.
 
jazznik said:
If we are talking about someone complementing the lineup of Kessler, Lauri, Ace and Keyonte we obviously need a secondary playmaker. That would be Wilson, Brown, Flemings, Philon.
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Well, assume Wilson goes in the top 4. So if the Jazz are at #6, then yes they could take a guard. I'm biased in favor of big wings who can playmake. That archetype, which includes guys like Franz Wagner, Deni Avdija and Jalen Johnson, would complement what the Jazz already have, while also keeping more size/length on the floor. The question for me is whether Neo Avadalas is good enough as a shooter/scorer to enter into that tier.


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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Well, assume Wilson goes in the top 4. So if the Jazz are at #6, then yes they could take a guard. I'm biased in favor of big wings who can playmake.
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Well, big wings who can playmake and defend are, probably, the hottest commodity in the draft behind unicorn centers like Wemby and the another-Lebron type of prospects. These are guys like Harper, Castle, and Edwards and they are not falling in the 6-8 range.

P.S. I am actually talking about big guards because the Jazz are pretty stacked with big SFs (Lauri, Ace).
 
I just realized that for several years the Jazz was absolutely obsessed with getting tall SFs that are good on defense. Besides Lauri, they got Agbaji, Fontecchio, Hendricks, Cody, THT, Toscano-Anderson, Ace... The amount of assets that they wasted in the pursuit of that coveted archetype was quite disproportionate compared to what they got.

But the Ainges are still doggedly searching for their new Tatum and Brown.
 
IDK... Carr is nice. There are also some cool pgs. Not sure if that's a need but talent is the question.

Watched Quaintance... clearly figuring things out post injury but he's huge. He looks like Kevin Looney physically and coming back from the injury kind of moves like him. I don't love taking a center that high unless they are DPOY worthy or can shoot or have amazing offensive versatility.

I'm very curious to see what we do with Walker. We have a pod dropping today hopefully with Tony Jones. There was a small tidbit towards the end on Walk and I'm kinda 50/50 on if he plays for us again. Might end up being a marriage of convenience.
 
What if the Jazz don't love their options at 6-8 and trade the pick for like Trey Murphy or someone like that? I could see a deal for a youngish vet impact player if they don't love how the board shapes up.
 
I think a trade is possible, and I don't hate the idea. Not because I don't think the prospects or good or that I think we need to rush into "win now" mode, but because there are very good prospects who might not fit with our established players. If we want to go with Kessler, for example, I think there may be a team who will trade up for JQ. I'm struggling to come up with a great target off the top of my head, but I think it will be a valued trade asset and we also have more picks to add in if we want to go big.
 
KqWIN said:
I think a trade is possible, and I don't hate the idea. Not because I don't think the prospects or good or that I think we need to rush into "win now" mode, but because there are very good prospects who might not fit with our established players. If we want to go with Kessler, for example, I think there may be a team who will trade up for JQ. I'm struggling to come up with a great target off the top of my head, but I think it will be a valued trade asset and we also have more picks to add in if we want to go big.
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What got my juices going is the fact that I like guys in the 10-15 range about as much as the guys in the 6-8 range but all of that is really premature this early in the cycle. Some guys will continue to emerge, some will slip...

I could see someone targeting JQ or Kingston and making a big offer. By time we get to the draft I like fall in love with someone and won't want to do it. I think its an interesting thought for now.

I do think we are going to rush into "win now" mode though. I think they have been fighting not hitting the gas and as soon as this pick stuff is over they are going to want to punch it.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
What got my juices going is the fact that I like guys in the 10-15 range about as much as the guys in the 6-8 range but all of that is really premature this early in the cycle. Some guys will continue to emerge, some will slip...

I could see someone targeting JQ or Kingston and making a big offer. By time we get to the draft I like fall in love with someone and won't want to do it. I think its an interesting thought for now.

I do think we are going to rush into "win now" mode though. I think they have been fighting not hitting the gas and as soon as this pick stuff is over they are going to want to punch it.
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I know we’re not gonna tank…I just hope that doesn’t mean we try to make a big splash more the sake of making a move. Wasn’t encouraged by the PG+Mikal plan. Maybe we go for the 2-1, Herb and Murphy swoop lol.
 
KqWIN said:
I know we’re not gonna tank…I just hope that doesn’t mean we try to make a big splash more the sake of making a move. Wasn’t encouraged by the PG+Mikal plan. Maybe we go for the 2-1, Herb and Murphy swoop lol.
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I don't know that its a big splash but something along the lines of adding Herb or Trey maybe. I think they would see it as a failure to miss the playoffs next year.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don't know that its a big splash but something along the lines of adding Herb or Trey maybe. I think they would see it as a failure to miss the playoffs next year.
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I’m okay with that as a goal, but after all the stubbornness shown in order to tank I hope there’s some restraint in pursuing playoffs. I just hope we don’t make a bad move.
 
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