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    Game Thread Feb 13, 2025 07:00PM MT: LA Clippers @ Utah Jazz

    That was another frustrating performance from Lauri at the end of the game. He entered at 7 minutes left in the forth and stayed on the court all game (And yeas, I understand that it was the end of the back-to-back and he was tired but so was everyone else on the Jazz and on the Clippers). The...
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    Game Thread Feb 13, 2025 07:00PM MT: LA Clippers @ Utah Jazz

    Flip looked so nimble and light on his feet tonight. If he can keep doing that he will have advantage over many bulky centers. Or he can even play the power forward.
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    How long does a SUCCESSFUL tank need to be?

    I would expect such thorough empiricist as Davide Hume to be way more attentive to easily measurable differences in the draft process over that time before aggregating the results. It is absolutely useless to look at the draft results of the 60s and 80s looking for the insights for the...
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    How long does a SUCCESSFUL tank need to be?

    You are hyper-fixated only on the picks as the only road to success. If we don't tank we can make many other moves that help building a successful team: we can instill the culture where everyone plays hard everyday because the result matters and everybody is accountable. We can make sure that we...
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    How long does a SUCCESSFUL tank need to be?

    That is true in general, but there are franchises that consistently draft good players with low picks and that is hard to explain by sheer luck. The success of the Spurs has been often ascribed to getting lucky and drafting Duncan. But they became the force in the next 15 years not due to that...
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    How long does a SUCCESSFUL tank need to be?

    The logic is simple: many people here talk about specific players (Harper, Boozer etc.) as though if the Jazz got them with a high pick then the team would get a franchise player. But in reality, the rate of busts/disappointments is very high in the NBA drafting. Even teams with the 1st picks...
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    How long does a SUCCESSFUL tank need to be?

    A few prospects?! Literally ALL MVPs in the last 10 years came outside of top-10 in the draft. And here is the number one picks in 2011-2020 (those that are still in the league and had enough time to pan out): Irving, AD, Bennett, Wiggins, KAT, Simmons, Fultz, Ayton, Zion, Edwards. Do you see...
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    How long does a SUCCESSFUL tank need to be?

    Th The current top-3 players in the NBA are Jokic (drafted 41st), Giannis (15th), and SGA (11th). That is all you need to know about the reliability of conventional wisdom on draft prospects. Out of 10 last MVP winners there was not a single player drafted first or second: two winners were...
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    Collier’s Future

    One thing that does not get mentioned much is Collier's demeanor. He is very level-headed and confident. He does not get carried away and start showboating, he is cool under pressure and does not get easily upset by his own mistakes or the errors of his teammates. This is a very good quality for...
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    How long does a SUCCESSFUL tank need to be?

    You pretend that you know who is a franchise-level prospect and who is not - but you don't. Nobody knows. Otherwise James Wiseman and Deandre Ayton would not be have been drafted in the top-2, while Jalen Brunson and Jokic were passed by every single team in the first round.
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    Game Thread Feb 07, 2025 08:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

    Well, you are actually is making my case here: it is exactly what is happening with Lauri this year: "almost any NBA player can guard him if the team they are playing just decides to shut him down". He is putting big numbers in the regular season on a bad team since there is little resistance...
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    Game Thread Feb 07, 2025 08:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

    You can find that kind of players for way less than the max. You just described someone like Grayson Allen or Deni Avdija. Both of them make 15 million per year.
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    Game Thread Feb 07, 2025 08:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

    First, regardless if the team is getting better or worse the star players on the team continue play like star players. Meanwhile Lauri during the clutch time simply disappears: he is not scoring, not rebounding and not passing. And when he is scoring, he is simply horrendous: 4th on the team in...
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    Game Thread Feb 07, 2025 08:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

    Everything that you said could be said about almost every other star players. All of them get planned against and focused on, many of them are on bad teams and/or playing sporadically. But you know what? They deliver in the clutch: that comes along with being a star and the leader of your team...
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    Game Thread Feb 07, 2025 08:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

    Also, this was probably the best game played by Filipowski. He played with toughness, energy and skill.
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    Game Thread Feb 07, 2025 08:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

    When the Jazz desperately needed points they went to their star, Markkanen, and time after time he was unable to create good shots or make a good pass time. Just wasted possessions. This is the preview of future playoffs. When you are a star you are supposed to power your team in those...
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    SA and Flagg

    But why? The team with Flagg, Wemby and Fox would be so much fun to watch for everyone who loves basketball. And I am sure Flagg would LOVE being part of that team. Good for Flagg, good for the NBA fans. I don't think we should derive pleasure from forcing players to Utah if they really do...
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    Jimmy Butler to Golden State in Five-Team Deal involving Utah

    So, this is the fourth trade for the Jazz at the trade deadline. Is it the NBA record?
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    2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

    And do you have the tentative reasonable timeline of when the team will try to compete under this scenario? Say, the Jazz draft their centerpiece in 2026 and begin drafting future kesslers and sextons in 2027-29. It will take 2-3 years for all of those young players to develop, so the Jazz can...
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    2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

    S So that after you hit that homerun you start swinging with your picks to fill out the roster with quality role players like Kessler?
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