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NPC, can you please explain which key news stories were legitimately and credibly debunked-- i.e. they were truly 'fake news'-- and how that absolves Trump? I'd be grateful-- seriously. It's a wild claim, if you think about it: No other president in American history has been able to simply...

Bingo. I mean, anybody paying attention knows these low-life rapists and criminals are essentially begging to be treated this way. They didn't have to come here! (The average Republican can explain further, if you have questions.)

I don't disagree, but it really complicates accountability, and how to hold our elected officials to any standard of integrity. What I hear conservatives saying is a whole lot of "yeah, but [insert Democrat] did [insert corrupt thing]", as if to say that since that went unprosecuted, so should...

Couldn't agree more. And I genuinely believe this to be true of pretty much everyone here. Opinions and relative anonymity bring out the worst in some of us, unfortunately, but I like the idea of starting off with-- and maintaining-- the assumption we're all earnestly looking for truth, or at...

Thanks for this. It seems not far from the truth (I think you believe this, and are saying so) that most of our elected leaders-- particularly in the higher ranks-- are and have been corrupt for some time. But I think, the more invested we are in one of the exactly two parties in our country...

You know I don't intend any disrespect if I disagree, fish. He does tend to ramble, but he's self-aware. I think babe assimilates a lot of information and often distills it in an abstract way, relating sometimes only vaguely related points in an attempt to drive home his arguments. He's also...

I think we understand that you believe Biden, Obama, Hilary, etc. are evil and corrupt-- much moreso than Trump could ever be, perhaps-- and the establishment is covering all of it up by controlling the media message most people receive. Just to round this out, then, would you be kind enough to...

Pretty sure that's Proverbs 23:7. :) James Allen used it, in part, as the title to his classic book, 'As a Man Thinketh'. Allen, Norman Vincent Peale-- you've read your share of old-school self-help, I take it.

Trump knows this-- always has: "One of the most famous and insightful lines Donald Trump offered on the campaign trail in 2016 came during a stop in Iowa, shortly before that state’s caucuses. 'I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn’t lose any voters, okay?'...

I wonder what you think about the idea that writing off progressive ideas with this thought is a bit dismissive. Does taking the good that we have, and deconstructing it to try and find ways to improve it, make us ungrateful or unpatriotic? Of course those who come from very little consider our...

Fair enough. Thanks for taking the time to articulate your thoughts. I totally respect you and your position, although I will say for my part my reasons for not supporting him aren't really about disliking Trump (true as that may be). We're frankly just in really different places, in terms of...

And please realize, despite the polling numbers, this has nothing to do with party politics for many of us. I am not a Democrat. Neither is colton, nor others posting in this thread in various positions not supporting Trump. Don't let party or polling numbers tell you how to think-- you have far...

Great post as usual, colton. This paragraph in particular really struck me as a good generalization of Trumpian strategy: To leave enough ambiguity-- ethical, factual, etc.-- that apologists can dismiss claims of corruption, and those inclined to connect the dots will fall just short of their...

Don't pretend like you've never heard of dextrous whiskers, you frisky dugong.

Great comment, Zombie-- thanks. I hadn't seen that broken down anywhere, and it totally clarifies the contradicting statements.

I need to spend more time in this thread. Just read this, and literally teared up. Thanks, Jazz Fusion-- how cool that you get to be so close to these kinds of stories. Keep up the good work, man.

Hey, man-- I didn't insult you, call you names, or attack you personally, and I expect the same respect, okay? Have some class. The words she uses, and the way she's set up by Hannity don't resonate with me, and that full interview-- to me-- seems entirely contrived. I'll admit I have a problem...

Yeah, I personally don't trust Sondland-- he's almost completed nullified his credibility as a witness. But his testimony strikes me as someone 100% covering his own ***-- first saying what he thought would keep him out of trouble with Trump, and then deciding his self-interests were best served...

"Abject failure"? That's about as uncreative and unconvincing a characterization as can be made. There wasn't an original thought in that lady's head. Her comments may as well have been written by Hannity himself, which in fact wouldn't surprise me to actually have been the case. Sorry, man, but...

Kinda disappointed this thread didn't take off. Interesting topic. Where you at, @babe ?