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  1. green

    Millers sell the Jazz

    So, because the league said their employees shouldn't be afraid of being murdered by cops...they are turning their backs on conservatives? Yikes. If conservatives feel that way...y'all are messed up.
  2. green

    Millers sell the Jazz

    I completely agree. I think we've (as a society) have become desensitized to the number "billions" and don't realize how huge that number is. People don't realize how obscene it is and disgusting it is. This put it into perspective for me: 1,000 seconds = .01 days 1,000,000 seconds = 11.6...
  3. green

    Millers sell the Jazz

    One thing to remember is that the ESPN contract/tv deal is what drove the values of the franchises through the roof. I doubt the next deal will be as lucrative for owners. That will slow the value.
  4. green

    Millers sell the Jazz

    I agree. Billionaires are not good people. Sure, once they get there they can change, but to get there...it's statistically impossible. And sacrifices have to be made. And this idea that billionaires will just start giving money away or don't care about getting more money...it's false. You don't...
  5. green

    Millers sell the Jazz

    The tv/revenue sharing is what really drives the value...but the contracts to play a part. That is why a lot of owners will sell off big contracts before they sell. As an owner, the less liability you have (contracts) and the more revenue you have (tv/revenue sharing) the better it looks on...
  6. green

    Will you still follow the Jazz...

    If it's Seattle, then YES. I'll get season tickets. lol.
  7. green

    Millers sell the Jazz

    Here is reality (I went over this when the trust happened): When Gail dies, the Jazz changes ownership. At that point, a big tax bill is due, like hundreds of millions of dollars. The trust had NOTHING to do with staying in Utah,it was just marketed that way. The trust was 100 PERCENT about...
  8. green

    Millers sell the Jazz

    I'm not sure this is right...they care about money. That is how they get rich. And they care that they are ranked 1,647 on Forbes wealthiest people list. And if moving to Seattle can jump him to 956...he will think about it. I'm not sure he'd do it, but he'd think about it.
  9. green

    Millers sell the Jazz

    Ding, ding, ding... The trust was a tax shelter and when that didn't work they sold. Spot on about the Miller's. They weren't into the Jazz and with Gobert and Mitchell contracts coming due, the value of the Jazz was just going to fall. This is a good thing. And worst case scenario? They move...
  10. green

    Trade Partner with GSW?

    I was making a joke, because DL taking all of GS's garbage a few years ago allowed GS to build their dynasty. It's DL's fault they become so good. I was just saying he'd trade Gobert to GS to make them great again, regardless of what it does to Utah.
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    John Hollinger Thinks Conley May Opt Out

    I alluded to this earlier. Players have to have money...it's a pride thing. That being said, Conley has made more money than he will ever spend. Money isn't his motivator. IF he opts out, I don't see him staying in Utah. IF he opts out, I'd bet money he ends up with the Lakers and goes after...
  12. green

    Trade Partner with GSW?

    DL's greatest accomplishment is forming the dominant GS team that destroyed the NBA. I could see him wanting to top that his second time around and build a more dominant GS team.
  13. green

    OPJ FTW

    That's what is so tough about this Jazz team. There is so much good...and bad there. What does Utah need? They have no shooting up front, but you can't really move Gobert. He is an A+ in so many areas and a D on offense...and he wants the ball more. Rough. I'm not sure you can move Ingles. You...
  14. green

    OPJ FTW

    If I'm Philly, I want Conley. You get to add a player who is only there for one year. You get to dump a contract. IF Conley works out, you win a ton of games, you get to keep Simmons and Embiid, and you get an extension as a GM. IF he doesn't work out, you still dumped a terrible contract...
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    OPJ FTW

    Philly hasn't "blown it up" until both Simmons and Embiid are gone. Until then, they are re-tooling. I could see how they'd want someone like Conley. Move Simmons to PF, Conley can handle the PG duties, Richardson and Shake can sit back and launch up threes. Conley can run PNR with Simmons and...
  16. green

    OPJ FTW

    I'm not so sure about that. I think Denver is A-ok with where they are. They just took it to us and then took it to the Clippers and now are battling the Lakers for a chance for a title. Plus, all of Denver's stars are still on the upswing. They got the best Mitchell had to offer and tossed...
  17. green

    Either Conley goes or DL you choose...

    So, DL's two best moves are trading away the pick for Gobert, Sloan throwing a fit and Sloan gets management to buy a pick to get Gobert. His second best move is answering the phone when Denver calls because Denver wants Lyles. We should back a guy who had one lottery ticket forced on him when...
  18. green

    Either Conley goes or DL you choose...

    I don't like the "you wanted player X so you can't criticize the move" guy. 1 - I'm not the GM. I don't get that big paycheck. I don't get held accountable for his moves. 2 - In my job, if I make a decision and it doesn't work out but my boss approved the decision, guess who gets fired? Not...
  19. green

    Either Conley goes or DL you choose...

    I have been anti-DL for years now. Look at what he has done: Let Millsap walk for nothing. That led to Exum, who he extended with a terrible contract. The Jazz were all lined up to take Giannis with #14 and Gobert with their pick in the 20's...DL traded those picks for Burke. He screwed up the...
  20. green

    The Inevitable Favs Reunion

    People need to realize that the Miller's are rich on paper. They don't have a lot of cash lying around. They can't afford to pay the luxury tax. They are the equivalent of the neighbor in the ritzy neighborhood that is mortgaged to the teeth and even though they have a lot of nice toys, if they...
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