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everybody is entitled to their opinion, but there is next to zero chance, assuming everybody is healthy and no trades, etc, clayton starts the season over collier at point.

bailey seems like a very loyal kid. which could be good for the jazz in the long run assuming he stays that way as he gets older, but perhaps not great as it relates to omar cooper.

he's about 4 years older than sensabaugh. so maybe grandpa sensabaugh.

collier will get him pumped both emotionally (assuming he even needs it, which he very likely doesn't) and by setting him up on the court. they know each other as georgia basketball rivals - he'll be lucky to have IC in camp with him.

sure, but he didn't want to be in utah like nobody wants to be in utah. nothing out of the ordinary. what made this this unusual was omar cooper. no draft prospects, who have never spent time in utah, are sitting there thinking i sure as hell hope i get to go live in utah for at least six...

you're referring to the agent who works with omar. art cummings, the tweeter, is the one who blamed the media looking for clicks.

this is good info, but i don't love the comment about media/clicks, etc. omar has made this legit problem. clayton is here, ace isn't. that alone is a thing even if we don't know anything else. i just don't buy this is a media fabrication. perhaps blown up a bit by the media, but i do...

oh because 19 year olds are so much more mature.

sure, but he's an 18 year old kid. 18 year old kids are often naive and trust the wrong people. that's just reality and i can't blame him too much for acting his age.

if it were nothing, he'd be here today with Clayton. Clayton is here, Ace isn't. It's not nothing.

he'll have a chance to prove it in about a week.

100% this. Ace is no different than any other kid from outside of utah, arizona, idaho basically - utah would never be his or anybody else's first choice, but at the same time, just like most other prospects he just wants to play basketball and be rich. ultimately he doesn't give a **** where...

no question. if they can just get him here, everything will start looking up.

if both cody and ace become really good players, they can absolutely play together. they are both wings, every team starts two wings.

agree 100%. the biggest thing ace is guilty of is trusting the wrong adult(s). it's actually sorta sad. i wish the jazz could get him without omar (and maybe they can/have/will) and really talk some sense into him. sit him down and explain in simple terms how this all works, how it...

so an average of just under $3MM/year over 4 years. without doing the math, about $11MM?

i don't think we know what ace wanted - my guess is he wanted to get as much money as possible (meaning draft as early as possible) and stay on the east coast. everything we know about what "he" wanted, has been directed by omar. but yeah, if bartelstein is handling things, he would have been...

that's about where i'm at - i gave ace the edge because he's bigger.

58% FT rate and 91% FT shooter. dude gets to the line and converts.

Ace was my 1a, Tre was my 1b. i have to wonder if others who like one, also like the other, hence the lack of debates between them.