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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    Filipowski proved he was a rotation caliber NBA player last year, but now he has to prove he's good enough at shooting and defense to play PF and this is going to be... challenging. If he is a bad defender at PF or a bad shooter, he's going to be a bench player, he needs to be good at both.
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    What Do You Think The Kessler Extension Would Look Like?

    Kessler is completely unproven because his results are so bad but his supporting cast was the worst in the league and because his playstyle seems unlikely to translate well to the postseason (where he's never been). But he's still going to get a huge deal because he's a promising third year player.
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    What Do You Think The Kessler Extension Would Look Like?

    The Jazz asked Kessler to throw 7 games this year, they are not getting a team friendly contract from him.
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    What Do You Think The Kessler Extension Would Look Like?

    Poeltl and Turner are way older than Kessler and may produce 0 value in years 3 or 4 of their deal. They are not comparable, Kessler will get a lot more as his injury/decline risk is massively lower for the tail end.
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    Is Isiah Collier finally our new Stockton?

    Hardy's defense is incredibly passive and his entire scheme is to lay off perimeter players to force them to take wide open above the break threes.
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    What Do You Think The Kessler Extension Would Look Like?

    5/175 to make him whole for being willing to throw 7 games last year. Kessler was the key guy who had to go along with the tank as he had to agree to rest (strategically against the very worst teams in the league) with no injuries and very publicly join a very humiliating thing that the NBA got...
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    Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread

    He just doesn't get any steals or rebounds or blocks at all. He generates no turnovers, provides no rim protection, and doesn't end possessions... Just doesn't do impactful things.
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    Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread

    The Jazz had 4 of the 10 worst defenders in the NBA in their rotation last year (Keyonte, Sexton, Sensabaugh, and Cody) and I wonder how often that's happened.
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    Following Potential 2026 Draftees

    One thing that's weirding me out is that Boozer looks like KAT but two inches shorter and a lot more coordinated+intelligent. They have the exact same shooting form, body type, and the whole "rumbling into the paint looking semi awkward but being so massive that he's a huge weapon." They are...
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    Is Isiah Collier finally our new Stockton?

    Collier's interview was good, he clearly knows what he has to improve. Can he do it? We'll see.
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    How bad/good is Cody Williams?

    Yeah, he was Giannis thin entering the league but Giannis' family like... Couldn't afford food. ... Whereas Cody already had a millionaire brother and seemed to have a pretty normal childhood (normal enough for his brother to at least be pretty big in college) It's very strange.
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    2025 Free Agency Thread

    He's never drawn fouls at any level. He just never gets to the line at all. He should be great with his tools and skill, but he's Ayton-soft.
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    Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread

    It's not the short-term fit that is the issue, the long-term fit just sucks. It cuts down on potential upside a lot if you specifically draft two players that could never play together on a good team even if they hit their potential. For two centers or whatever, you could trade one of them, but...
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    Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread

    I mean, that went exceedingly poorly! We finished last in defense both years. They are combo guards in that they are SGs who are too small to defend SGs.
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    Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread

    No, they can't, lol. They're way too small and they're pure SGs, just very undersized.
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    Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread

    The issue here is that both guys are so duplicative and play an archetype where duplication is very bad and where teams around the league refuse to trade for this archetype. So the overlap is so horrendous that any sense of BPA vs. fit has to lean towards fit this late in a draft class as...
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    Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread

    Drafting a guy you hope is your 6th man gunner off the bench when you already have a prospect you hoped would be your 6th man gunner off the bench feels like a pretty strong signal. Both guys are 6'3" SGs with mediocre wingspans, they're too small to be anything but gunners off the bench...
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    Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread

    I mean, I don't know how else to take the Walter Clayton Jr pick, lol.
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    Keeping Lauri seems increasingly pointless

    Collier: Please, I'm begging you, just make the extra pass, come on guys, don't abort the set early. Ace/Lauri/Collins/Keyonte/Clayton Jr/Svi/Kind of Hendricks/Kind of Kessler: The possession ends here Cody: If you pass me the ball, I will piss myself and then vomit. This is not a very talented...
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    Keeping Lauri seems increasingly pointless

    Given Lauri's very extensive injury history, I would bet against Lauri being very good in 4 years when Ace and their 2026 pick might be good. (I also hate the Lauri-Ace fit long-term as your two max guys even if the timeline worked out, 55%+ of your cap going to guys with no playmaking is...
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