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    Solving For Tanking, We're smart, let's figure it out

    The wheel uniquely allows prospects to know what the draft landscape looks like the following year, and thereby make a better informed decision about the pros/cons of staying another year. As it is now, the top picks can basically only count on the prospect that if they don't come out one year...
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    Solving For Tanking, We're smart, let's figure it out

    For anyone who cares to give an assessment about this idea for rejiggering the lotto odds to try to solve tanking, I welcome your thoughts. (And yes I know there are ideas that do away with the lotto altogether that could well be more attractive -- I'm just trying to think what's possible IF the...
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    Utah Jazz fined 100,000 for violating league participation policy

    This story indicates that league investigating Thunder for sitting all five starters recently against Blazers (a game Thunder still won). Also says Sixers being investigated for possibly sitting out PG & Maxey too much...
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    Utah Jazz fined 100,000 for violating league participation policy

    Serious question: is having back spasms a problem that can me indicated/monitored by medical tests, or is it one of those conditions that only the individual experiencing it will be able to judge?
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    Utah Jazz fined 100,000 for violating league participation policy

    Yeah, if you're intending to tank until you get THE GUY, keeping it up long enough can be pretty difficult -- especially when building on years of not-terrible draft hauls. Maybe we're willing to keep recycling until we get the prize (like Philly did with Michael Carter-Williams), but that's...
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    2024-2025 Tank Race

    Maybe we can go on a long winning streak to finish 6th and then get the first pick. ;) If nothing else, it would be quite entertaining to see all the see all the switching emotions in the fanbase.
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    The value of finishing in the bottom 5

    Sorry I misinterpreted your intentions. I took your post as a counter to my OP, as @The Midnight apparently did too. I should have been less defensive in my response and more careful in trying to discern your point. Yes, I totally agree with your key point that teams typically experience down...
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    Looking ahead to 2025-2026

    Yeah, of all of the teams that coulda/shoulda gotten to the top, they're probably #1
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    Looking ahead to 2025-2026

    Great article. Thanks for the post. Andy Larsen seems to suggest that it's in line with what he's hearing behind the scenes as well. It seems that the Jazz are heading toward a (somewhat deliberate, slow) total teardown in order to try to finish bottom-3 at least two years in a row. I'm...
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    Looking ahead to 2025-2026

    He had some impressive moments against the Jazz in preseason. But he didn't strike me as a real tanking prize. But, as you say, he's 17. I'm really bad at judging what high NBA potential either looks like or doesn't look like at that age.
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    Game Thread Mar 05, 2025 05:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Washington Wizards

    Andy was one of the first and hardest on the tank bandwagon. I think his "conversion" is more of a philosophical conversion (that it's bad for the league), than a practical one (I would guess he still largely agrees with what the Jazz have done).
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    Game Thread Mar 05, 2025 05:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Washington Wizards

    If Malone had had to play today's rotating defense out to the three point line, he might have sung a different tune. I think we underestimate how much toll the changing defensive rules/landscape places on players' bodies.
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    Looking ahead to 2025-2026

    For those in the know on the '26 draft, how deep is it said to be? I know of AJ, Cam, Peterson being mentioned as potentially very high-level. Where does it go after that -- say 4-8?
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    The Non-Jazz NBA Thread in the Jazz Section

    I think they got a few guys back (or at least back in the groove) that they really need defensively since we saw them. Most important may be DFS (think he missed against us). Just uber smart and uber versatile defensively, and not a bad shooter, to boot.
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    The value of finishing in the bottom 5

    Yep. But even the Spurs are beginning to show the difference between getting lucky when you still have a good /great team and getting lucky when you've mostly emptied the cupboard. With Duncan it was full speed ahead. With Wemby there have been (and may possibly yet be) more speedbumps along...
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    The value of finishing in the bottom 5

    I don't know how many times I have to say it. I'm not anti-tanking. I'm anti-overrating tanking. (OK, I am anti-tanking as a matter of principle. I think it's bad for the league. I think we need to change the system that rewards tanking. But I'm not against the Jazz tanking under the league...
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    The value of finishing in the bottom 5

    I don't doubt that he does. But I suspect he'd be the first to tell you need a lot of luck for something like this to happen again. With the Celtics, he placed a short-bet on the Nets. He won that bet. He also won the subsequent drafts. Now they have a championship. With the Jazz, he seems to...
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    The value of finishing in the bottom 5

    What is that model? Is it just one? Though I think that tanking can be generally called a "model," I tend not to like using the term "model" to describe how teams succeed. I think success is too varied and complex most of the time to fall under the label of "model". We need to succeed at a lot...
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    The value of finishing in the bottom 5

    Not sure where to start here: You seem to be moving the goalposts. My argument was about bottom-5 league finishes (since I think that's what most people around here would argue is a proper tank). Now you're saying bottom-5 conference finish (this encompasses several of your examples -- esp...
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