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    2025 Utah Jazz All-Time Bad Draft

    I remember it well. I has season tickets and grew increasingly frustrated watching McLeod and Palacio play over D-Will, when anyone with even the smallest of discernment could see that D-Will was the far superior player. Plus, he was the #3 pick, people were excited about seeing him play, and...
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    2025 Utah Jazz All-Time Bad Draft

    I haven't read the entire thread, but surely someone's mentioned Milt Palacio. You know, the journeyman worse than replacement player Jerry Sloan stubbornly started and played ahead of Deron Williams during Deron's rookie year. Sloan had some "old school" rationale for it, I'm sure, which just...
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    Jazz in Talks with Wong

    The puns write themselves.
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    The Non-Jazz NBA Thread in the Jazz Section

    It's also the root/origin of the English word Knight. So, he's also a warrior guy.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    I agree. Why can't we celebrate even small to moderate wins like this when they occur? It's ok to take pleasure out of something even if it's not earth shattering.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Virtually ever podcast I listened to the discussed summer league began with the caveat something like, " We can all agree that summer league doesn't really matter and you can't draw any conclusions from it," right before they talked about how much summer league mattered and what conclusions they...
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    I've received a good amount of pushback on my position regarding load management in summer league, most of it quite reasonable. I've done some side research on the issue, and it seems I'm perhaps on a bit of a limb regarding my stronger criticisms on this issue. I understand that summer league...
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    Very reasonably stated. It's entirely possible that I've overstated the problem, perhaps motivated by my generalized loathing of load management.
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    I find it incredibly interesting that people here assume that ESPN is, or should be, unconcerned about the quality of the product it pays for and broadcasts. What successful business operates like this?
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    ESPN has made an investment. It wants to maximize the return to that investment. Imagine going before the ESPN decision-makers during contract negotiations to address concerns about the sitting of high profile draft picks and saying, "It's summer league man."
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    I get it. Your are correct in that summer league serves multiple purposes and teams must find a way to balance them productively. That's entirely reasonable from their POV and entirely reasonable for you to point this out. My POV is not the players or teams but the league. There appears to be a...
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    Don't know. There's always other options. This is, I believe, ESPN's second year broadcasting summer league. I imagine that when it signed up for it, ESPN execs didn't anticipate load management to make its way to summer league and for teams to be routinely sitting high profile draft picks...
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    If I'm ESPN, I'm refusing to broadcast summer league games in the future without some kind of guarantee that the high profile draftees actually play, barring legit injuries. Fans don't tune in to watch no names playing for two-way, G-league spots, or European contracts. They tune in to see the...
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    Saint Cy's Incredible Knowledge and Wisdom: Jazz Must Acquire Kyle Filipowski in the 2024 Draft

    Filipowski's fall was one of the biggest misses in the 2024 draft. I wonder how much of his fall was due to off-court concerns/issues related to his presumedly sketchy girlfriend that bounced round social media pre-draft. (For the record, I couldn't care less. It was a non-story amplified by the...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Collier has more acreage than Clayton, but point well taken.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    LOL at how a this topic has devolved into an insult-fest. Personally, and based on limited info, I think Clayton will have the longer and better career than Collier, if not as starter, then as a quality bench/role player. Clayton isn't perfect, but he lacks a glaring flaw that (other than...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Why would us landing AJ or Boozer fuel conspiracy theories? If anything, it would do the opposite, as nobody outside Utah cares about the Jazz, and we're certainly not a team the NBA FO wants to promote for ratings and media eyeballs. There's little incentive from where I sit to rig the game in...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    That NBA players significantly boost performance in contract years has always struck me as a cliche and not necessarily evidence-based. For what it's worth, I did a quick search using different AI programs, and below is their conclusions. I don't claim this settles the question, but it tends...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Like Sexton, I think Collin's is underrated by NBA observers and has, for reasons I don't quite understand, acquired a not-so-good rep. I am actually glad for him that he can now play meaningful games and contribute (hopefully) to winning. Given that we've spent the last 2 years or so trying...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    You may well be right. And, he may be the best we can get for our cap space money. If so, God help us. We aren't winning anything, anytime soon.
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