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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    If you really believe the so-and-so is THE guy but that there's a very good likelihood he'll be there when your turn comes, why wouldn't you trade down? The only reason I can think of is the risk he's drafted before your turn is unacceptably high. That said, getting more stuff strikes me as an...
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    Jazz hire Celtics Assistant GM Austin Ainge as new President of Basketball Operations

    More people win when you're stuck in the middle than when you're spinning your wheels on the lottery treadmill year after year. What is the "middle" anyway? I'm curious how you define it.
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    Jazz hire Celtics Assistant GM Austin Ainge as new President of Basketball Operations

    Notwithstanding the incredibly low odds of winning the lottery. IF indeed that single low probability event was what drove "strategy" over the past year, that's clear-cut FO malfeasance.
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    Jazz hire Celtics Assistant GM Austin Ainge as new President of Basketball Operations

    Could very well be. But, when a sacrifice is required, shiite flows downhill. At some point, he's going to be accountable; no honeymoon lasts forever.
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    Jazz hire Celtics Assistant GM Austin Ainge as new President of Basketball Operations

    Plenty of coaches have been fired with plenty of years left on their contracts. It would hardly be a precedent.
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    What Would it Take to Make the Playoffs?

    A decision by the FO that it doesn't care about keeping its first round draft pick. I've a hard time imagining the FO is willing to risk that.
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    Jazz hire Celtics Assistant GM Austin Ainge as new President of Basketball Operations

    I'd not say zero risk. If this tank stretches on indefinitely, there will be increasing pressure to find a scapegoat, although that's likely to be Hardy, at least at first.
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    Jazz hire Celtics Assistant GM Austin Ainge as new President of Basketball Operations

    Add nepotism to the list of things that are only prohibited and sanctioned for us lowly plebs, along with the likes of conflict of interest, bribery, grifting, general corruption, lying, infidelity, etc.
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    The Non-Jazz NBA Thread in the Jazz Section

    LOL, ok, you've convinced me. I retract my statement. There are some hills worth dying on. This isn't one of them.
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    The Non-Jazz NBA Thread in the Jazz Section

    Post-Indiana, PG Thus, "in hindsight."
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    My son is…

    Agreed, Sun Always Shines is a great song. Hunting High and Low is one of my all-time favorite albums.
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    The Non-Jazz NBA Thread in the Jazz Section

    I don't think that there's enough discussion about whether the Clipper's trade for Paul George was one of the worst trades in recent NBA history. In hindsight, it was arguably worse that the Luca Doncic trade.
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    My son is…

    LOL, it's got to mean something, right? Years ago, my cellphone ringtone was the opening stanza of Take on Me by Ah-Ha (I'm an 80s New Wave fan, sue me, and Ah-Ha is a criminally underrated band--aside from this one iconic hit and video). On driving with my daughter to go skiing at Alta, just...
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    My son is…

    Could be worse, my son is Manchester City fan. As a true, red Liverpool fan, it's almost enough to disown him.
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    Tre Johnson Will Likely be The 5th Pick

    I understand that the premise of the discussion is when you're tanking." That was clear from the beginning. I don't disagree that playing young guys is both a good way to ensure the tank is effective and a good way to utilize the PT made available by tanking. In fact, I agree strongly with it...
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    Tre Johnson Will Likely be The 5th Pick

    I don't have a magic number of vets. To me, it's more the type of vet than the number. Probably a mixture of good locker room vets who don't necessarily play much but who are good, steadying and mentoring influences together with some who can help manage the play on the floor and help keep games...
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    Tre Johnson Will Likely be The 5th Pick

    Well, hyperbole is what we all do here. For me, the question is how to optimally balance player development with being able to pivot back to competitiveness in a reasonable period of time. I'm not convinced fielding a team largely of prospects is the best way to do this, although arguably...
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    Tre Johnson Will Likely be The 5th Pick

    The logical implication of this is that you'd be ok with all 13 roster spots being prospects. Do you really believe that? I can easily imagine several reasons why a team may to limit its number of prospects. Here are just a few: 1. Tanking teams want their prospects to actually improve. Having...
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    The Non-Jazz NBA Thread in the Jazz Section

    True, but with only 2.2% of people saying so. This hardly seems like a ringing endorsement, although I don't find this poll very useful or enlightening. For this to be a useful gauge on how the Jazz are perceived by its peers, it would be useful to see the breakdown of the poll results with more...
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    Tre Johnson Will Likely be The 5th Pick

    Ok, fair enough. But, assuming we do get rid of the vets for next season, what's the plan for pivoting back to competitive status with a roster stocked largely with youngsters? My #1 fear is that what was hoped to be a moderately-long rebuild turns into an interminable one. Even San Antonio...
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