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No one wins when you are stuck in the middle, Bill Simmons, who knows Danny pretty well once said that Danny's goal is to win every trade. That seems very evident in what we have seen in Utah and at least in part explains why we have been stuck in the middle

We are much worse off. I have no problem with rebuilds or being patient but the problem with this process is it was entirely self inflicted and we counted on the luck of the draw to bail us out. The irony for me is that it now seems like Smith hired Austin to take a different approach from...

The "customer" reaction to the last few years is getting progressively worse and it has to be obvious to Ryan that he has lost a lot of viewership - particularly now that banking on luck didnt work. I will be very surprised if we sit our best players or pull them in the 4th during close games...

The Andy Larsen interview on ESPN 700 about the AA hiring was very good. https://espn700sports.com/utah-jazz/andy-larsen-on-the-utah-jazz-hiring-austin-ainge-of-as-the-new-president-of-basketball-operations-nba-finals-preview-do-the-pacers-have-a-shot-vs-okc-more/#google_vignette

I dont think my issue is unrealistic expectations nor do I think my view is "weird" but you are welcome to call it whatever you like. I would argue there is a growing feeling that is consistent with my issues ever since Ainge took over. IF you insisted on trading BOTH HOF players (which never...

Yup. People who want to win are weird.

I care a lot less about the Nepo issue than I do that the Jazz are bringing in someone who will undoubtedly continue with the same philosophy that has put us in the toilet and created the loss of a lot of fans. This is Ryan doubling down on something that has not gone well at all IMO.

Ryan is betting the farm on the Ainge's. I am wondering if JZ is moving on or shortly will be.

I think there is a fair amount of building pressure to still try and find big game so I agree to disagree. We are poorly positioned to do so but I doubt the hunt is over. Trading Lauri and or taking on a contract like Dame's is waving the white flag - and admitting we blew it by putzing...

Lauri has plenty of value. GM's are not misled by the Jazz doing everything they could to be crappy. If Danny has any inkling of still doing "big game" hunting you have to hold on to Lauri. It is also why you dont tie your hands with a trade for Dame. If we trade Lauri it is an open...

You are assuming that moving him when and IF he gets healthy is easy. I think that is a huge leap and hand cuffs you on all kind of other options because of his salary. We cant even move Clarkson or Collins and you think moving a questionable Dame is easy? Huge risk with the only payback is...

That is all obviously true, and it still makes zero sense for the Jazz to trade for him.

That is not what he is saying. He has been clear that he will not end his career this way and still wants to compete for a title. Not sure that is a reality but his intent is clear.

The idea of Damian coming to Utah makes zero sense to me from both a Jazz perspective or a Dame perspective.

An A from me would mean he has brought in more talent then we gave up - two future HOF players. Maybe there is a diamond in the rough but not seeing anything close. A B grade means he has replaced the talent he gave up. So far, everything is tracking well below what we have traded.

I have a hard time going big on either of the guys from Rutgers based upon how the team did this year. Any team with two top 5 or even top 10 picks should be mowing people down. Maybe they are both the real deal but something does not add up.

David Locke does not know what the Jazz are thinking at this point - he MIGHT near draft day but who knows.

If you trade Lauri you need to get some young talent in return. Enough with betting the farm on picks.

Agreed. And there was no reason to put the Jazz in that deep of a hole. Danny got incredibly lucky in Boston and seems to assume he will get incredibly lucky again. I would rather have a plan.

Someone in our family has had season tickets for over 30 years until 2 years ago when I quit. I am not sure folks will not come back but what has happened makes no sense. We are in a bad spot because we got the pick we were most likely to get and we were betting it all on being intentionally...