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I am not going to weigh in on Keyonte's mental state and whether he is overly immature or not, you're probably right in your assessment but I don't know how to judge those things. What I will say is that he doesn't get to the rim enough and I don't know if he has the skillset to ever get to the...

It's hard to say with Keyonte. I struggle with the fact that even if Keyonte pops this season, that will just put him in the Anfernee Simons tier. That makes it hard for me to get excited about him.

After some summer league games: Ace Kessler WCJ Flip Brice Taylor Cody Keyonte Collier

I still believe that Fears will be better than Tre. He is just having a hard time in Summer League and his team situation isn't good. But, I believe the best players can thrive in any situation and I hope Fears can prove to be one of those guys.

He was really active in this game, but he was also given on ball duties in the 2nd half. Not sure how translatable that is to the main team, but he looked good doing it. Maybe he can pop more as an on ball player?

Don't quite know what to take away from this game. Cody played decently, Flip was ok, not quite sure with Collier. Some guy named McGriff was shooting really well. Didn't see it myself but Larsen reports that Harkless had right wrist soreness and was pulled out.

Maybe a bit, but he is also getting a bunch of deflections and steals. Is something going on with Collier?

Cody playing decently well now. Let us see if he can finish this game strong.

Goodwin looks like a good shooter, they should try to get it to him more.

I don't see why Collier or Clayton can't become a starting level PG. Collier has some concerning problems but some great strengths to his game and WCJ has looked great in Summer League. If they aren't starter level players, they probably won't stick with the Jazz in the long term.

I like alot of what he is doing but he needs to figure out how to rebound the ball better.

Listen, I'm not going to die on this hill. If your saying Liam is that much bigger that's fine. Just the impression I got watching the game, I could be wrong on that.

Combine measurements are one thing but when WCJ was guarding Liam, he wasn't outsized. It might be that Liam is more skinny and was hunched over a little or maybe WCJ is a bit thicker but my eyes tell me there isn't that much of a difference. Maybe it was the camera angle or maybe It was just...

Don't think Clayton Jr. is that small or that limited athletically. When guarding Liam McNeely on a few possessions, I thought his size was comparable. He isn't some undersized guard out there. Collier is decent off the dribble but he doesn't have a great variety of moves to go to; I need to...

Think he reminds me a bit of Andrew Wiggins with his habit of being passive. Not that he has Wiggins athleticism but Wiggins also has the tendency to disappear in games.

Is it that simple? I don't know if 3 point shooting is the only thing that Collier is missing. He would still have problems as a player even if he had a good 3 point shot and good FT%.

On the Clayton vs. Collier front. I really like how Clayton plays off ball and how he moves to get open. It creates a nice flow for the offense. Collier is great when it's clicking for him but he constantly goes for homerun passes which leads to loads of turnovers. Just think Clayton is a bit...

Having the physical traits to guard someone and actually being good on defense are 2 different things. I don't know if Collier is good on defense at all.

I don't know what yall are talking about with the last game. He came on late with alot of buckets when the game was tight at the end. If you always look for negatives, you certainly will find them but I thought last game was a good game from Cody. I hope he can carry that end of the game...

Haha, don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.