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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    ESPN has made an investment. It wants to maximize the return to that investment. Imagine going before the ESPN decision-makers during contract negotiations to address concerns about the sitting of high profile draft picks and saying, "It's summer league man."
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    I get it. Your are correct in that summer league serves multiple purposes and teams must find a way to balance them productively. That's entirely reasonable from their POV and entirely reasonable for you to point this out. My POV is not the players or teams but the league. There appears to be a...
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    Don't know. There's always other options. This is, I believe, ESPN's second year broadcasting summer league. I imagine that when it signed up for it, ESPN execs didn't anticipate load management to make its way to summer league and for teams to be routinely sitting high profile draft picks...
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    If I'm ESPN, I'm refusing to broadcast summer league games in the future without some kind of guarantee that the high profile draftees actually play, barring legit injuries. Fans don't tune in to watch no names playing for two-way, G-league spots, or European contracts. They tune in to see the...
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    Saint Cy's Incredible Knowledge and Wisdom: Jazz Must Acquire Kyle Filipowski in the 2024 Draft

    Filipowski's fall was one of the biggest misses in the 2024 draft. I wonder how much of his fall was due to off-court concerns/issues related to his presumedly sketchy girlfriend that bounced round social media pre-draft. (For the record, I couldn't care less. It was a non-story amplified by the...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Collier has more acreage than Clayton, but point well taken.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    LOL at how a this topic has devolved into an insult-fest. Personally, and based on limited info, I think Clayton will have the longer and better career than Collier, if not as starter, then as a quality bench/role player. Clayton isn't perfect, but he lacks a glaring flaw that (other than...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Why would us landing AJ or Boozer fuel conspiracy theories? If anything, it would do the opposite, as nobody outside Utah cares about the Jazz, and we're certainly not a team the NBA FO wants to promote for ratings and media eyeballs. There's little incentive from where I sit to rig the game in...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    That NBA players significantly boost performance in contract years has always struck me as a cliche and not necessarily evidence-based. For what it's worth, I did a quick search using different AI programs, and below is their conclusions. I don't claim this settles the question, but it tends...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Like Sexton, I think Collin's is underrated by NBA observers and has, for reasons I don't quite understand, acquired a not-so-good rep. I am actually glad for him that he can now play meaningful games and contribute (hopefully) to winning. Given that we've spent the last 2 years or so trying...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    You may well be right. And, he may be the best we can get for our cap space money. If so, God help us. We aren't winning anything, anytime soon.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    At least we can sell hope and talk ourselves into them, as we don't have enough data points to say yay nor nay definitively. I think it'll be harder to sell hope for someone for whom we have four years of data points, pointing mostly downward. The team that signs Kuminga is the team that...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Age is irrelevant if someone isn't very good. There are lots of so-so 20 somethings in the league. Why not stock our roster with them if that's your idea of team building? He's had 4 years to prove himself, and rather than doing so, he's played himself into a benchwarmer role. At THAT's who you...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Why the hell would the Jazz trade for Kuminga? How does using cap money to acquire a guy who couldn't get playing time on a team the desperately needed more wing talent and who's never come close to sniffing his potential after four years in the league help the Jazz win? Ainge can't be that...
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    Game Thread Jul 05, 2025 07:00pm: 76ers Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    I don't put that on Ace, I put that on whatever scheme the Jazz were running. I assume their plans are more than to use him as a corner three guy, but that's pretty much what he was in the second half. It's up to the coaching staff to figure out how best to utilize and develop him. But, it's...
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    Game Thread Jul 05, 2025 07:00pm: 76ers Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    A few observations: 1. In the second half, the Jazz buried Ace at the corner 3 and ran almost zero actions for him. He was largely a bystander. When he did get involved, he seemed to be forcing it rather than playing in the flow of the game, as the flow had largely frozen him out. I hope they...
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    Keeping Lauri seems increasingly pointless

    Basing the success of one's strategy on getting lucky may work for dance hall lotharios, but it's not necessarily the most reliable strategy for building a winning basketball team. I infer from Houston's action that they were sick of losing, didn't see winning in their near future with the...
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    Keeping Lauri seems increasingly pointless

    I don't get this insistence that the Jazz absolutely MUST be on a certain timeline. There's no reason, in theory at least, why the Jazz couldn't pivot reasonably quickly if a core emerged in this or next season, while maintaining the flexibility and assets to make major or incremental moves that...
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    Keeping Lauri seems increasingly pointless

    I'd hate to be the team building around Scoot and Holland. It may be bleak in Utah, but a team built around those two would be as if not more bleak.
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    Utah Jazz Select Ace Bailey, Pick 5

    I've been to San Antonio and Sacramento. Sacramento is pretty good, is near the mountains and outdoor opportunities, is much less expensive than the Bay Area (or was), and not a bad place at all. San Antonio, IMHO, is a dump. Didn't like it at all. I generally strongly dislike Texas. The one...
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