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remember those vesley highlights of him dunking everywhere and on everybody. dude had the biggest discrepancy between highlights and actual ability perhaps than i've ever seen.

day 1 (sorta depends on how guys play in summer league and pre-season - and of course moving people via trade, etc) Collier Bailey Markkanen Collins Kessler

his ncaa tournament highlights. what a fun watch View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H9pUsQBy2k

mikel brown is absolutely in the running for top 5. he's very good.

looks like there is no significance to #19 for Bailey. just a fresh start since he can't wear #4.

collier's new number is 8.

Any significance to that that you’re aware of?

Ah. Worst rookie presser ever

They said they were going to take a group pic, then do the individual sessions.

Please dump Clarkson next.

absolutely - his lateral movement/quickness is one of his greatest strengths at his size. he does a great job of staying in front of smaller guards. now that was at the college level and the NBA is a different beast so he'll have to adjust, but he has the athleticism to do it.

yup. bummer.

Didn’t waste much time. Wearing the same outfit he got off the plane in. View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DLd4OkGRYtn/?igsh=MW45Mzg4MzFrNjlibw==

this has been an elite thread, but probably time for it to die a slow death at this point.

not old enough to be shrinking. that said, he hasn't always been shorter, it's probably only been about 2 or 3 years since ace has been the taller of the two.

iow, basically the summer league roster.

Collier Clayton Ace Hendricks Flip

who's mormon?

kobe averaged 7 ppg as a rookie and was throwing airballs in the most import games of the season. chauncey billups wasn't good. alperen sengun. giannis was horrendous early on. pascal siakam. joe johnson. rajon rondo. steve nash. paul george. demar derozan. kyle lowry...

great example. and so many other examples - just a silly comment to pretend that if a guy isn't great early, that he won't ever be.