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You don’t trade your best player since Kareem for the hope you can tank two, three, and four years down the road. Ideally, they get a bunch of stuff from Atlanta that they can spin off to New Orleans for next years pick and they can have two years of tanking starting immediate to the trade...

Milwaukee’s gonna need ANY hope the second they make the trade. The hope of distant tanking - and… Scoot? Sharpe? - ain’t gonna cut it. I’m convinced it’s Atlanta or San Antonio. I don’t think OKC is a match.

He needs to get minutes in the NBA (he needs to play off other, better players and be lower on the court pecking order) and it is criminal what is happening right now. He will learn nothing useful in the G League and he will either get better in the NBA or he will help us lose games is what I...

It’s probably whoever is first to cough up their best trade piece (Dylan Harper, or the Bucks/Pelicans pick [the most loaded pick in the modern era]).

The list of possible things that make going for it this season a good idea is probably this one idea long. Atlanta is in pole position. New Orleans is so ****ing dumb and Dumars should be under investigation by the FBI for that trade.

Good thoughts, I’m just not sure if they have anything to trade that we would be looking for. Checking that out now. Speaking of BOGO trades, we should maybe be targeting Portland as a team to make better (might help with some Jazz and Timberwolves losses).

Raw +/-? Doesn’t mean much since the Wizards have been a tire fire the whole time he’s been there, which will be exacerbated by him playing real minutes. if this were on/off splits that’s an entirely different story.

We should be nervous if we do not have a bottom-5 record as we can be forced to cough up the pick by teams jumping ahead of us in the lottery and pushing us back. We will be lucky to have the 5th worst record. There are plenty of teams legitimately worse than the Jazz at this point...

And yet, Keyonte has been developing while we did full or partial tanking for both of his prior seasons.

When the tanking gets harder. We've had the data for three years. This team isn't legit.

Correct. They did it right one season (yielding Ace Bailey) and wrong two seasons (yielding Taylor Hendricks and Cody Williams).

If we didn’t already have a longer track record of them ****ing around and ****ing up than them doing it right, I would be less anxious.

I wanna dive on this triple-swap rights thing and contrast it to having three firsts: it is worse to lose this pick than to draft later with our own pick in ‘22-‘23 because this is our only pick. We lose our entire draft with this pick, a top-8 pick on top of that, with swap rights on top of...

Doing the stuff to win around the edges accounts for half of the win total. This Jazz team is not good or built enough to justify losing a top-8 pick with triple swap rights to the league’s preeminent superpower. It is absolutely ridiculous that this is even a debate. At least the ‘22-‘23 looked...

Well, I mean, we REALLY need the Kings to be winning games so in the short term I am not happy. But, yeah. Nice thought.

Sorry, that would be full-blown... R-worded. I don’t have a more suitable descriptor. This organization is a little dysfunctional, it’s not that.

The only thing worse than being bad is being just bad enough at the worst point possible that results in dumping a top-8 pick to an emerging dynasty in what looks like a good draft. No Jazz fan will be happy with that outcome, ever, which includes right now. There is at least any potential for...

The unfortunate reality is we need to out-stink the worst teams head-to-head if we want to keep the pick at this point because we need the power of the twofer (or BOGO as HH would say).

We owe it not only to ourselves, but to the game to not be short-sighted chumps this year.

Huh?