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    Clayton or Collier?

    Ultimately, if you place more emphasis on what Collier did in summer league as opposed to his work during an NBA season, that is foolish. Sadly, it probably rolls the opposite direction for Cody, although I want to believe. . .
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    The big question I have is, once the Jazz orchestrated the board to get Bailey, did they have any interest in moving up for Harper? Evidence points to "no," but it could be that Harper just wasn't available at a sane price.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    If we spend that 26 million exception it almost has to be for a point guard. Having WCJ as a backup point and Collier as a project is a pretty good situation to grow into. If either if them pop, you can adjust accordingly.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    What if I told you that the dude picked at the *** end of probably the worst draft in a decade was never intended to be a second year starter and any juice we get out of him in that direction is an immense positive? Collier is a project, and a project that broke John Stockton's rookie assist...
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    Is Cody Williams the next Kobe?

    I hope Cody stays away from the sexual assault too. . .
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    Cody Williams Hype and Appreciation Thread

    The coaches have been tinkering with his shot. He's been shooting differently as a pro than he did before. You can see it in the highlight packages above. I'm old, I remember Jeff Hornecek talking about when he first came into the league, his coaches made him change his shot. He was pretty...
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    Game Thread Jul 18, 2025 06:00pm: Jazz vs Bulls (Summer League)

    I mean there were those epic Jazz/Hornets tankoff games. . .
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    Game Thread Jul 18, 2025 06:00pm: Jazz vs Bulls (Summer League)

    At this rate he might be playing point guard.
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    Game Thread Jul 18, 2025 06:00pm: Jazz vs Bulls (Summer League)

    This year's summer league Cody is way better than last year's summer league Cody. Is it enough? I don't know, but it isn't the same movie.
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    Cody Williams Hype and Appreciation Thread

    All of it, everything.
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    Cody Williams Hype and Appreciation Thread

    Dude looks like he fast forwarded 5 years. He will be a lot harder to move out of the post than he was as a Rookie.
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    Cody Williams Hype and Appreciation Thread

    This is LIFTING. . . View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiEHr__XYIk&t=96s
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    Cody Williams Hype and Appreciation Thread

    I honestly think the Jazz are having Cody lift and work on his body during the season which has contributed to some of slowness and lethargy. On the other hand, having him work on his game BEFORE he gets the body he is going to need is kind of a waste as well. Confident Cody looks pretty smooth...
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    Game Thread Jul 16, 2025 08:00pm: Wizards Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    Yeah, I think Harkless caught the last "non drafted development piece" spot on the train out of here.
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    Cody Williams Hype and Appreciation Thread

    We could eventually win a championship and in the post game thread there would be two or three dudes just exclusively bitching about Cody.
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    Seriously though, who is playing center?
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    I mean have you seen a non-marquee ESPN college football broadcast? They are apparently very unconcerned about the quality of the product. Those cameras have to be 30 years old.
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    Not making what an NBA level trainer is though.
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    2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

    They still wouldn't have done the deal.I think they are planning their pivot off of Embiid. That deal for Lauri is still probably there if it was on draft day.
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    You can start with having your own trainer and nutritionist.
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