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My exact proposal was to "sprinkle in some other stuff" and I don't think his current level is so bad that we cannot do that.

Yeah, trading Key for some percentage points seems kind of ridiculous. But if we're talking about after the lotto....I mean how many guys in the NBA are you really taking over Pete/AJ/Booz? I always say the draft is overhyped, but I think these guys are really special.

I am in total agreement that I want to see him make as many correct decisions as possible. What's really important is the amount of total decisions and situations he gets to make. I'll repeat myself again and say that it's less important how he gets to those opportunities and more important that...

I don’t disagree with much of what you said here other than the last sentence. That’s already started and there’s a history of doing exactly that. Now as far as the other stuff, here’s where I’m in agreement: Playing to win is not in perfect alignment with playing to develop. You have made the...

Key getting the Shai 20-22 treatment.

How can I say his experience level with isolation or current isolation is not a reason for parking him in a corner? I’m not really hung on the idea of how much iso ball he’s actually played. It’s pretty much exclusively what he did in college but idc if you think that’s a lot or a little. The...

The question about Key vs top 4 says a lot about just how good this top 4 in the draft is.

Yeah…idk why we would have to turn “Lauri and Nurk help their teammates” into “Key is reliant on them” even if his performance did dip a little bit….but it hasn’t. There’s some shooting variance when you chop up his minutes into smaller SSS’s off, but he’s actually been remarkably consistent...

Key performs quite well on offense regardless of who he shares the court with. Offensively he’s just very good and his success doesn’t seem to be tied to any player.

BPM and Vorp include defense which is why Key rates out so much worse.

You spend 99% of your time inventing ways to be upset.

You are the most tanking obsessed person in the world. The need to insert it into every discussion and thinking it about 24/7 cannot be healthy.

The point still remains that he’s not new to iso ball. He was like 99th percentile in iso usage at Rutgers. I didn’t even think his iso game was that appealing, but it’s a big part of who he was as a prospect an I’m not going to have him stand in the corner all game on the basis of him being a...

If Kessler isn't the guy, the player I'd expect the Jazz to try to pursue is Hartenstein. Very good fit, basically a young nurk.

Big O is a good value contract. I was a really big Stan of his, but the defense hasn’t been as good as I had hoped. Would be a good offensive fit with Hardy, but I fear we need true elite defensive centers who can carry the defense.

Ace has played iso ball his entire life, it’s not like you’re asking TH to get loose. But it’s not really important how good he is at those things right now. You let him do some of things you think he has the potential to be. I want to put Ace in a lot more situations than standing in the...

Being drafted in the NBA does not matter. There is an NBA draft pick playing right now. Currently, the line they’re trying to draw is that if you’ve signed an NBA contract (includes two-way) you are ineligible. But these things are always changing and changing in favor of more eligibility. I...

Wrt Ace, “Why not both?” I think it’s great that he’s involved off the ball and developing that part of his game. I also think it would be great to put him in different situations even if he’s not great at them now. It goes back to the point I made earlier where “looking the best” doesn’t...

IMO, the best comparison to Key’s current level/trajectory is Garland. Key is going to fall short in analytical comparisons to most guys because of defense, but you could convince be he’s just regular bad and not one of the worst in the league. Garland’s career has taken a turn for the worse...

The difference on defense is so substantial between Key and Hayward to say he’s surpassed him. I don’t have too many questions about Key sustaining this, the bigger question for me is if he can push it to an even higher level. But any time there’s a huge jump I think it’s fair to question if...