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    Clayton or Collier?

    It always comes down to the reliable jumper. If he doesn't develop a reliable jumper then he has an Elfrid Payton career trajectory. If he can develop that jump shot then a Kyle Lowry type is possible.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Collier is not as fast as you are making him out to be. He is a good athlete but I don't view him as one of those incredibly quick pg's that can get to his spots almost any time he wants. As of now I like him as a prospect but if he doesn't become a decent outside shooter he is going to have a...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Collier is not super quick and anyone with eyes can see that. I never said anything about strength. As far as shooting goes it is not even up for debate that Clayton is a better 3pt shooter. Teams are never going to go out of their way to let him take clean 3pt looks. With Collier they will at...
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    Game Thread Jul 11, 2025 05:00pm: Jazz Vs Hornets (Summer League)

    I'm interested to see how they are distributed when we are healthy. We have so many youngsters right now that need consistent minutes to develop. This is how I would like to see it when completely healthy. Add in injuries though and you will see guys minutes increase overall. Odds are when...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    I'm not saying Clayton is the answer at pg either but Collier is not nearly as good currently as you are making him out to be. His lack of shooting ability is an issue and he isn't super quick either so I question his ability to break down the defense and create clean looks for guys. Teams are...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    The pg position was most definitely not taken care of with Collier and Harkless who isn't even a pg and most likely not even a rotation guy. Also bitching about dumping Clarkson, Sexton and Collins is stupid. We are in a full rebuild and they were in the way.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    I still think Key is going to cement himself as the longterm starting pg this year.
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    He is going to be very very good. It's such a hornets thing to pass on him for Kon when you want a sg that can stroke it.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    If Collier can't become a reliable 3pt shooter he is going to have a hard time seeing the floor when a team is trying to win rather than tanking.
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    How bad/good is Cody Williams?

    I'm excited to see the what Cody and Ace can do defensively. We haven't had that type of length defensively since probably AK and Brewer but they were kind offset by Boozer and Okur. Add in a healthy Hendricks and Kessler and you may have the makings of a damn good defense. Plenty of length to...
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    Elijah Harkless Hype Thread

    I like his toughness but I don't think he is any more than end of bench guy.
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    Game Thread Jul 07, 2025 07:00pm: Grizzlies Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    Don't worry this is Key's year.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    So nice to be 100% committed to a clear direction this offseason.
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    Very strange takeaway. His shot looks great and his release point is going to allow him to get a clean look over almost anyone.
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    Game Thread Jul 05, 2025 07:00pm: 76ers Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    The sixers got a good one in VJ.
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    Game Thread Jul 05, 2025 07:00pm: 76ers Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    I'm not sure he is a pg. Everyone penciling him over Key is probably in for a disappointment.
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    Game Thread Jul 05, 2025 07:00pm: 76ers Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    This is some ugly ball without a good pg to run the show.
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    The Non-Jazz NBA Thread in the Jazz Section

    That is going to go down as an all time bad trade. Cam is going to be a future 25pt a game scorer for the wiz. I wonder if we can turn this into a 3 team trade and see if the wiz would want Key instead. He is a better fit for their current makeup while Cam is a better fit for us.
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    Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread

    Agreed. His first couple of years haven't exactly been the most cohesiveness from a basketball standpoint and what direction the team was moving not to mention the fact that we are still only talking about a 21yr old as well. I feel like year 3 is when players tend to make their largest leap...
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