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  1. Basketball Novice

    The Non-Jazz NBA Thread in the Jazz Section

    I like alot of what he is doing but he needs to figure out how to rebound the ball better.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Listen, I'm not going to die on this hill. If your saying Liam is that much bigger that's fine. Just the impression I got watching the game, I could be wrong on that.
  3. Basketball Novice

    Clayton or Collier?

    Combine measurements are one thing but when WCJ was guarding Liam, he wasn't outsized. It might be that Liam is more skinny and was hunched over a little or maybe WCJ is a bit thicker but my eyes tell me there isn't that much of a difference. Maybe it was the camera angle or maybe It was just...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Don't think Clayton Jr. is that small or that limited athletically. When guarding Liam McNeely on a few possessions, I thought his size was comparable. He isn't some undersized guard out there. Collier is decent off the dribble but he doesn't have a great variety of moves to go to; I need to...
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    How bad/good is Cody Williams?

    Think he reminds me a bit of Andrew Wiggins with his habit of being passive. Not that he has Wiggins athleticism but Wiggins also has the tendency to disappear in games.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Is it that simple? I don't know if 3 point shooting is the only thing that Collier is missing. He would still have problems as a player even if he had a good 3 point shot and good FT%.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    On the Clayton vs. Collier front. I really like how Clayton plays off ball and how he moves to get open. It creates a nice flow for the offense. Collier is great when it's clicking for him but he constantly goes for homerun passes which leads to loads of turnovers. Just think Clayton is a bit...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Having the physical traits to guard someone and actually being good on defense are 2 different things. I don't know if Collier is good on defense at all.
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    How bad/good is Cody Williams?

    I don't know what yall are talking about with the last game. He came on late with alot of buckets when the game was tight at the end. If you always look for negatives, you certainly will find them but I thought last game was a good game from Cody. I hope he can carry that end of the game...
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    Haha, don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    I really loved Fears but after watching Ace in 2 games of Summer League, he was the right pick. Ace just offers much more on the court and have more value in today's league. Guys like Sexton and Powell are getting sold for scraps, and Fears will have a tough time elevating above those guys...
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    Was listening to Locke and he compared Collier's career path to Springer's. I was surprised because Locke is usually pretty positive with his outlooks.
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    Game Thread Jul 08, 2025 07:00pm: Thunder Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    Part of this is I just have higher expectations for 2nd/3rd year guys. I wanted Collier, Brice, and Flip to dominate the competition and show improvement with the issues they had during their rookie years. All 3 have played very good at times yet I come away from these 3 games underwhelmed at...
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    What are you implying here? What are you trying to say?
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    Game Thread Jul 08, 2025 07:00pm: Thunder Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    WCJ had his struggles this game, for sure, but I liked how he moved the ball and the shooting came on later in the game. When WCJ is in, the ball is moving, and he is making moves off ball, screening or cutting, relocating. When he has the ball, he advances it up the court to players ahead...
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    Game Thread Jul 08, 2025 07:00pm: Thunder Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    Man, I agree with you, but you just might lose Collier completely if you start a rookie over him. Then again, that's just basketball. He should have played better if he wanted to secure his starting spot. Regardless, I don't think Hardy has the fortitude to bench Collier and start WCJ from the jump.
  17. Basketball Novice

    Game Thread Jul 08, 2025 07:00pm: Thunder Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    I don't know what to think of Collier. I am a bit mixed with him. Is he really going to start the season as the starter?
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    Game Thread Jul 08, 2025 07:00pm: Thunder Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    I think Harkless deserves a spot with the main team. We need a tough, defensive minded guy like him. Give the team some toughness.
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    Game Thread Jul 08, 2025 07:00pm: Thunder Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    I like this Harkless guy
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    Game Thread Jul 08, 2025 07:00pm: Thunder Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    This Leons guy is doing great on our guards.
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