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And Suddenly . . . Roster Flexibility With a Decent Win Now Message

ShortShorts

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So I like the move. I think it set's the tone for keeping our key players with a "we're ready to win" message, while keeping us flexible enough to make a move in FA 1-2 years from now (when the insane FA impact is settled a bit - this year will be nuts, as in we haven't even begun to see what it's going to be like when every team in the NBA has to increase their salary an average of $20.5M just to be at the MINIMUM) and we know more clearly where we have the greatest need, i.e. is Exum the Man or a bust, is Lyles all that, can Hood compete with Hay as scoring option, etc.

My gut would suggest DL has a target of peak performance for the roster around 2019 or 2020 and is doing everything he can to keep the gang together while maintaining as much flexibility as possible to start winning.

Depth Chart When Healthy - a stab:

PG - Hill 28 / Exum 16/ Neto 4
SG - Hood 18 / Burks 24 / Exum 8
SF - Hayward 32 / Hood 10 / Ingles 6
PF - Favors 22 / Lyles 24 / Booker 2
C - Gobert 30 / Favors 8 / Lyles 4 / Withey 6

Some interesting lineups, not even sure these will all happen but fun to think of and it really does highlight how we are actually resonably flexible now with our roster.

Lid on the Rim: Hill (WS = 6'9"), Exum (WS = 6'10"), Hayward (WS = 6'8"), Favors (WS = 7'4"), Gobert(WS = 7'9")

George Karl's Wet Dream: Exum, Burks, Hood, Hayward, Lyles - Decent size, speed and 3pt shooting at all spots, may not be the Warrior's death lineup but damn fun to watch that would be

F-U Small Ball: Exum, Hayward, Lyles, Favors, Gobert (average height = 6'10", average wingspan = 7' 1.5" and that team isn't some Frankenstein nonsense, I could actually see us playing this)

Screw you Murica: Neto, Exum, Ingles, Lyles, Gobert
vs
Stars and Stripes Forever: Hill, Hood, Hayward, Booker, Favors

Likely starting: Hill, Hood, Hayward, Favors, Gobert (far better than last years gang with the PG upgrade)

Likely second team: Exum, Burks, Ingles, Lyles, Withey (rarely actually really play all 5 together but that's a far cry from last years heinous second units - let's hope the health Karma comes our way)

By the way, just a quick stab at what payroll might look like for a "peak" Jazz outfit in 2019 where a luxury tax is probably around $135M and we are all in at biggest investment to win (please Millers have some guts). Yes I know these are crazy-*** finger in the wind guesses, but it got me thinking at least.

Hayward 25
Gobert 20
Favors 20
Hood 15
Burks 12
Exum 15
Lyles 12
PG2 5
Wing4 3
Wing5 1.5
PG3 1
Big4 3
Big5 1.5

Total 134

And let's hope steady improvement from within yields a synergetic Detroit '04 style behemoth, OR we somehow find that FA acquisition the Jazz never seem to get.
 
Jazz were poised to win with a healthy Exum,Burks,Gobert,and Favors already.Injuries derailed them ,not lack of talent. Hill is a complimentary player ,a rotation player not a alpha dog. For the Jazz to win big they need Exum to shine and lead them,if he's alpha Jazz are going to be serious players.
 
May not always agree with everything you write but I certainly appreciate the time and thought you put into your posts. Thanks.

I'd like that Ingles is 3rd SF but I'd rather have another SF wing. Booker can go and give all his PF minutes to Favors.
 
Jazz were poised to win with a healthy Exum,Burks,Gobert,and Favors already.Injuries derailed them ,not lack of talent. Hill is a complimentary player ,a rotation player not a alpha dog. For the Jazz to win big they need Exum to shine and lead them,if he's alpha Jazz are going to be serious players.

Pretty much agree. But still think we could fight for home court if he busts.

May not always agree with everything you write but I certainly appreciate the time and thought you put into your posts. Thanks.

I'd like that Ingles is 3rd SF but I'd rather have another SF wing. Booker can go and give all his PF minutes to Favors.

Wait, "not always agree"? What? ;-)

As for Ingles we have to spend at least $20M more somewhere to reach the new MIN. Maybe early extend Favors and $10M rental on someone this season I believe with the FA money pumps flowing this summer FAs are going to be overpaid, and even a bit next year as well. 2018 summer for a smart GM may be the summer to target and that aligns with a peak of 2019 or 2020.
 
So I like the move. I think it set's the tone for keeping our key players with a "we're ready to win" message, while keeping us flexible enough to make a move in FA 1-2 years from now (when the insane FA impact is settled a bit - this year will be nuts, as in we haven't even begun to see what it's going to be like when every team in the NBA has to increase their salary an average of $20.5M just to be at the MINIMUM) and we know more clearly where we have the greatest need, i.e. is Exum the Man or a bust, is Lyles all that, can Hood compete with Hay as scoring option, etc.

My gut would suggest DL has a target of peak performance for the roster around 2019 or 2020 and is doing everything he can to keep the gang together while maintaining as much flexibility as possible to start winning.

Depth Chart When Healthy - a stab:

PG - Hill 28 / Exum 16/ Neto 4
SG - Hood 18 / Burks 24 / Exum 8
SF - Hayward 32 / Hood 10 / Ingles 6
PF - Favors 22 / Lyles 24 / Booker 2
C - Gobert 30 / Favors 8 / Lyles 4 / Withey 6

Some interesting lineups, not even sure these will all happen but fun to think of and it really does highlight how we are actually resonably flexible now with our roster.

Lid on the Rim: Hill (WS = 6'9"), Exum (WS = 6'10"), Hayward (WS = 6'8"), Favors (WS = 7'4"), Gobert(WS = 7'9")

George Karl's Wet Dream: Exum, Burks, Hood, Hayward, Lyles - Decent size, speed and 3pt shooting at all spots, may not be the Warrior's death lineup but damn fun to watch that would be

F-U Small Ball: Exum, Hayward, Lyles, Favors, Gobert (average height = 6'10", average wingspan = 7' 1.5" and that team isn't some Frankenstein nonsense, I could actually see us playing this)

Screw you Murica: Neto, Exum, Ingles, Lyles, Gobert
vs
Stars and Stripes Forever: Hill, Hood, Hayward, Booker, Favors

Likely starting: Hill, Hood, Hayward, Favors, Gobert (far better than last years gang with the PG upgrade)

Likely second team: Exum, Burks, Ingles, Lyles, Withey (rarely actually really play all 5 together but that's a far cry from last years heinous second units - let's hope the health Karma comes our way)

By the way, just a quick stab at what payroll might look like for a "peak" Jazz outfit in 2019 where a luxury tax is probably around $135M and we are all in at biggest investment to win (please Millers have some guts). Yes I know these are crazy-*** finger in the wind guesses, but it got me thinking at least.

Hayward25
Gobert20
Favors20
Hood15
Burks12
Exum15
Lyles12
PG25
Wing43
Wing51.5
PG31
Big43
Big51.5

Total 134

And let's hope steady improvement from within yields a synergetic Detroit '04 style behemoth, OR we somehow find that FA acquisition the Jazz never seem to get.

Good post. I love it! I think your salary number for Hayward in 2019 will be closer to 35 million though.
 
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