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Who Was Worse: Rookie Cody or Rookie Dante?

Strutter said:
Uh well that's not what I was responding to. I was responding to someone saying he looks lost and out of place.

And responding to your point, he made multiple drives into the lane this game that ended up as either buckets for him or other Jazz players. He's definitely playing passively, but I don't see someone who is "useless" with the ball in their hands.
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Maybe try reading what I wrote....
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Biggest advantage Rookie Cody has over Rookie Dante is body control when attempting layups
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This. I am inclined to say Cody is looking better as a rookie just because Dante looked like a baby deer on ice. Cody looks like a basketball player. I want to watch Cody for 10-20 games before making any kind of judgements on him whatsoever. He could be a guy who is very methodical and needs to process and feel comfortable. Or maybe he's Tony Snell 2.0. Either way if he doesn't become a good shooter we won't love the pick. Just send him to wherever Ryan Dunn went in between Virginia and Phoenix and see what happens.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
This. I am inclined to say Cody is looking better as a rookie just because Dante looked like a baby deer on ice. Cody looks like a basketball player. I want to watch Cody for 10-20 games before making any kind of judgements on him whatsoever. He could be a guy who is very methodical and needs to process and feel comfortable. Or maybe he's Tony Snell 2.0. Either way if he doesn't become a good shooter we won't love the pick. Just send him to wherever Ryan Dunn went in between Virginia and Phoenix and see what happens.
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Dunns was a confidence thing mostly. Cody's shot just looks bad. I'm sure it's confidence too, but the shot is kind of busted.
 
I'd lean toward rookie Dante just because of how high my expectations were.

Chad Ford said he was the closest thing he had ever seen to Kobe.

I thought he meant Kobe Bryant but I guess it was Coby Karl
 
YoungJefe said:
I'd lean toward rookie Dante just because of how high my expectations were.

Chad Ford said he was the closest thing he had ever seen to Kobe.

I thought he meant Kobe Bryant but I guess it was Coby Karl
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I still laugh when I think about the Red Bull thing.
 
YoungJefe said:
I'd lean toward rookie Dante just because of how high my expectations were.

Chad Ford said he was the closest thing he had ever seen to Kobe.

I thought he meant Kobe Bryant but I guess it was Coby Karl
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the difference between what Dante looked like pre draft playing here locally and for Australian teams and how he was entering the NBA was weird. He always looked super bouncy and hyper aggressive offensively. And then rookie season, not so much shall we say
 
Here is a depressing stat comparison: interesting to note, Williams was drafted exactly 10 years after Exum - nice of the jazz to draft an exum clone on the 10 anniversary

Dante Exum through his first 15 games: 18 mpg, 4.9 ppg, 37.5 FG, 30% 3pt (on 2.6 attempts), 57.9% FT (on 1.2 FTA), 1.6 reb, 2.5 asts, .3 blk, .5 stls, .9 TO, 5.7 PER (for the entire seaon)
Cody Williams through his first 14 gms: 20 mpg, 3.5 ppg, 29.0 FG, 20% 3pt (on 2.4 attempts), 60.0% FT (on 0.7 FTA), 2.4 reb, 1.4 asts, .5 stls, .3 blk, .7 TO, 3.9 PER

I mean, those are definitely numbers. not big numbers, but they are numbers - that is not in dispute. gotta give the edge to dante.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Here is a depressing stat comparison: interesting to note, Williams was drafted exactly 10 years after Exum - nice of the jazz to draft an exum clone on the 10 anniversary

Dante Exum through his first 15 games: 18 mpg, 4.9 ppg, 37.5 FG, 30% 3pt (on 2.6 attempts), 57.9% FT (on 1.2 FTA), 1.6 reb, 2.5 asts, .3 blk, .5 stls, .9 TO, 5.7 PER (for the entire seaon)
Cody Williams through his first 14 gms: 20 mpg, 3.5 ppg, 29.0 FG, 20% 3pt (on 2.4 attempts), 60.0% FT (on 0.7 FTA), 2.4 reb, 1.4 asts, .5 stls, .3 blk, .7 TO, 3.9 PER

I mean, those are definitely numbers. not big numbers, but they are numbers - that is not in dispute. gotta give the edge to dante.
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And Dante was a few notches above defensively.
 
I just really hope when the post trade deadline comes around and the NBA games become a complete joke with hyper tanking that Cody is ready to have a mini-breakout when he stops playing like a weenie.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I just really hope when the post trade deadline comes around and the NBA games become a complete joke with hyper tanking that Cody is ready to have a mini-breakout when he stops playing like a weenie.
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yup. don't get me wrong, trash play annoys me but it's them being passive little bitches that i just couldn't/can't handle. i have no patience for that.
 
And this whole convo is why he should have already been hidden in the G League. The level of toxicity is just gonna go up if he stays with the varsity team and at one point it will reach him and no 20 year old is immune to such unless he has some personality disorder.

But any NBA minutes is good for development...
 
At this point, the best use of Cody is to ensure losses. It’s a terrible waste of a #10 pick but right now it’s the best use for it (if appearances factor into the equation at all).
 
NUMBERICA said:
At this point, the best use of Cody is to ensure losses. It’s a terrible waste of a #10 pick but right now it’s the best use for it (if appearances factor into the equation at all).
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Just got to hope he has some significant physical improvement in the next two years.

It's a real bummer with him and Hendricks. I'm not going to call them "misses" yet, but they are definitely behind the curve and dont look like surefire starters. Definitely feels like the progress towards winning took a hit this year and we are looking at least an extra year of tanking.
 
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