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Are there any Kanter apologists left? What are they saying?

Watched Kanter against the Bulls as I wanted to see him against a legitimate opponent. Looked pretty useless. Little Aaron Brooks scored on him a couple times in the paint. Westbrook had to point a couple times where he should go on offense. I could see him soon getting less minutes than he did in Utah.
 
Stifle Tower said:
So for those hating on Snyder for substituting out for Kanter on defense at the end of games...guess what? OKC did the SAME thing! And he wasn't brought back in on offense.
I will give him kudos for the offensive board and score to make it 103-99.
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Well to be fair Bulls did take out Noah as well to put in Gasol. It is not like they replaced another center in place of Kanter. They put Jones in so that Ibaka didn't have to gaurd Mirotic.
 
The Blue Elephant said:
Well to be fair Bulls did take out Noah as well to put in Gasol. It is not like they replaced another center in place of Kanter. They put Jones in so that Ibaka didn't have to gaurd Mirotic.
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Exactly. Coaches make substitutions. But Kanter apologists were never willing to allow that with Snyder. He was HORRIBLE for taking Kanter out and not letting him finish. So by the same token, you have to criticize Brooks. And go back and look at the games Snyder did that...many times he would then put Kanter back in for offense if the clock was stopped. Brooks didn't do that.
 
The more I watch Kanter the more I think eventually he will sign elsewhere. He is destined to follow in the footsteps of Al and join like a Bucks or a Pistons after Monroe leaves.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Watched Kanter against the Bulls as I wanted to see him against a legitimate opponent. Looked pretty useless. Little Aaron Brooks scored on him a couple times in the paint. Westbrook had to point a couple times where he should go on offense. I could see him soon getting less minutes than he did in Utah.
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He still sucks on defense. I can't tell if his passing had improved, since I saw all of one play where he had the ball.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Watched Kanter against the Bulls as I wanted to see him against a legitimate opponent. Looked pretty useless. Little Aaron Brooks scored on him a couple times in the paint. Westbrook had to point a couple times where he should go on offense. I could see him soon getting less minutes than he did in Utah.
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Gasol often abused him in teh post too.
 
The Blue Elephant said:
The more I watch Kanter the more I think eventually he will sign elsewhere. He is destined to follow in the footsteps of Al and join like a Bucks or a Pistons after Monroe leaves.
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We agree on that. OKC never saw him as a long-term solution. He's there to replace the injured Adams and provide depth. They have this year and next to win with Durant. Phoenix and New Orleans were biting at their heels and they couldn't afford to be without another big. Without Kanter they may have even missed the playoffs (well, they didn't know Westbrook would go on a tear). I'll bet they're hoping Kanter WON'T get a huge offer and he'll return for the QO.
 
It's pretty clear Steven Adams is going to get the majority of minutes once he comes back. OKC seems to be interested in Kanter mostly for his ability to attack post mismatches and offensive rebound and not his face up game at all.
 
Let me add my 2 cents...my eye test tells me that when Kanter got traded he played harder. I didn't have any idea that he could run that fast. That tells me that he was not giving his all when playing for the Jazz. Glad he is gone.
 
I have little respect for people who don't do their best regardless. Maybe it is just a personal thing, but it is also something that I feel very strongly about. Whether I was making 6 figures in a great job or 40k in a make-do job after I got laid off, I always try to do my best. I not only owe it to the people paying my check, but I personally just work that way. When I see these guys getting paid millions to play a game and get the impression they are holding back or not giving it their all it makes me sick. If that is the case then I lost all respect for Kanter. Same goes for any player playing that game in a "contract year", or whatever. Go hard or go home.
 
jazzrule said:
Let me add my 2 cents...my eye test tells me that when Kanter got traded he played harder. I didn't have any idea that he could run that fast. That tells me that he was not giving his all when playing for the Jazz. Glad he is gone.
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He didn't play harder he is being used correctly. Presti could see the Millers were trying to keep his value down and showcase his weaknesses instead of strengths. Presti swooped in to capitalize on it as he always does. He knew Kanter has the best low post game in the NBA and put him in situations where passing is an actual option. He had 5 assists the other day. 5! Thats probably a career high for what Utah was doing.


BTW, Kanter led a Westbrook and durant less team in a win over a Laker team we couldn't beat fully healthy. What does that tell you about his value and DL getting ripped off?
 
Dumb Bloke said:
He didn't play harder he is being used correctly. Presti could see the Millers were trying to keep his value down and showcase his weaknesses instead of strengths. Presti swooped in to capitalize on it as he always does. He knew Kanter has the best low post game in the NBA and put him in situations where passing is an actual option. He had 5 assists the other day. 5! Thats probably a career high for what Utah was doing.


BTW, Kanter led a Westbrook and durant less team in a win over a Laker team we couldn't beat fully healthy. What does that tell you about his value and DL getting ripped off?
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Yet they lost to Phoenix and a Chicago team that is missing Rose AND Butler - WITH Kanter.

What does it tell me? OKC is a better team than Utah (despite Utah having a better winning % since the trade than OKC). And all NBA teams can have bad nights.

Jazz are 5-2 since the trade. They have victories over 4 teams with winning records (SA, Portland, MIlwaukee and Memphis), but two embarrassing losses to teams under .500.

OKC is 6-3, with only one of those victories over a team with a winning record (Dallas). But they took care of business against teams playing below .500.
 
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BTW, Kanter's stats with OKC are virtually identical to his stats with Utah.
He's playing 1 more min per game (woo hoo!) but getting fewer shots and his scoring is down by .5, Rebounding is up by 1 as are assists. FG% is also improved; no doubt because he is playing closer to the basket and not shooting as many mid-range shots or 3's (hasn't attempted one in OKC yet). As a result, he's also getting to the line more. Also realize it's a small sample size with OKC.

Let's see if I can get this table to post.


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