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Following potential 2015 draftees

if I was the jazz front off this is how I would be looking at the roster

pg - exum, Burke - seems to be working Burke seems to have found his roll as energy and scoring off the bench. exum very good defense. no reason to write I'm off until we see what happens in the off season. with Neto out there not even a need for a 3rd pg.

sg - Hayward, burks, millsap - very solid but the position is shooting not great in the bunch. millsap is the defensive specialist in the group.

sf - Hayward, hood, ingles - another solid but ingles is not a great scoring but a willing passer hood, for me he has injury issues, streaky shooter but seems to be getting better. defense is ok here

pf - favors, booker - team option with booker they should pick up. booker is a fantastic enforcer that doesn't take crap from anyone. favors is favors and one of the best defensive bigs in the league. QS seems to covet a stretch 4 and booker so far has not filled the void.

c - Gobert, favors and maybe tomic and or pleiss - again one of our best rotation. if the rumors are true about tomic the jazz will be ver solid here one of the best of the 5. if the rumors are not true then the 5 is weak.

with all that said what I see is

1st A - alpha (hezonja or Johnson)
1st B - shooting a stretch big (porzingis, looney or kaminsky)
2nd - a very good 3&D player (Anderson, Winslow {maybe}, Johnson)
3rd - pure shooter (booker)

with that said unless the jazz get a top 3 pick they should look to move up and nab either hezonja or Johnson.
 
The consensus top 4 are: Towns, Okafor, Russell and Mudiay. There's a chance Mudiay slips a spot or two, but he'll be gone by the time the Jazz draft.

The next 4, by consensus, appear to include the following in some order: Johnson, Hezonja, Porzingis and Cauley-Stein. It's possible that WCS could slip a spot or so, but I doubt it.

The Jazz are likely to draft 9th or 10th. New Orleans, Phoenix and at least a couple Eastern Conf. teams are likely to stay in front of the Jazz.

This means the Jazz will be looking at Oubre, Winslow, Turner, Looney, Booker, or Kaminsky.

Given those options, I think Turner has the most upside. Personally, I also like Oubre and could probably get talked into Winslow.
 
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Catchall said:
The consensus top 4 are: Towns, Okafor, Russell and Mudiay. There's a chance Mudiay slips a spot or two, but he'll be gone by the time the Jazz draft.

The next 4, by consensus, appear to include the following in some order: Johnson, Hezonja, Porzingis and Cauley-Stein. It's possible that WCS could slip a spot or so, but I doubt it.

The Jazz are likely to draft 9th or 10th. New Orleans, Phoenix and at least a couple Eastern Conf. teams are likely to stay in front of the Jazz.

This means the Jazz will be looking at Oubre, Winslow, Turner, Looney, Booker, or Kaminsky.

Given those options, I think Turner has the most upside.
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Why do people keep saying this? Right now Jazz are a win away from drafting 11th, and are playing the best of any team not currently in the playoffs. Boston may stay ahead, but I doubt it. Jazz have a chance of passing Phoenix the way the Suns have been playing and picking 13th. They will likely pass all of the teams in the East that miss the playoffs.
 
The Jazz are 7 games behind the Hornets and Suns with only 20 games to play. Assuming the Jazz win 13 or 14 of their remaining 20 games, those teams would have to finish 7-13 or 6-14 just for us to tie. They're playing too well to do that. They'll both close out around .500 at least. Both have a shot at the POs.

The Celtics, Heat and Nets are all in playoff contention and play mostly EC opponents. It's reasonable to assume that at least one of them stays ahead of us. Detroit is in the mix also. They probably just have to win 11 or 12 games to hold us off.
 
Catchall said:
The Jazz are 7 games behind the Hornets and Suns with only 20 games to play. Assuming the Jazz win 13 or 14 of their remaining 20 games, those teams would have to finish 7-13 or 6-14 just for us to tie. They're playing too well to do that. They'll both close out around .500 at least. Both have a shot at the POs.

The Celtics, Heat and Nets are all in playoff contention and play mostly EC opponents. It's reasonable to assume that at least one of them stays ahead of us. Detroit is in the mix also. They probably just have to win 11 or 12 games to hold us off.
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Phoenix is not playing well right now. They are 5-10 in their last 15 with losses to Miami, Boston, Minnesota and Sacramento. Their schedule isn't easy either. I doubt they close out the rest of their games above .500. I don't think the Jazz will pass them, but there is a small chance.

As for the teams in the East, If the Jazz finish out with 12 more wins, which is very likely, then more than 2 of the teams in the east have to finish better than .500 (Charlotte, Indiana, Boston, Brooklyn, Miami) to have a better record (all of those teams are .450 or under right now). In order for the Jazz to pick 9th, all 5 of those teams have to finish with a better record than the Jazz from this point. If someone like Boston continues to win, they probably just pass Charlotte and Jazz end up picking after Charlotte.
 
At this point, I believe we'll trade the pick. I'm still holding out hope that we can move up for Hezonja, but I'm not optimistic about our chances of doing so.
 
I'm watching Winslow v. NC, and he doesn't look good. He's hesitant to shoot, is hesitant to drive and just can't seem to do much in the half court. He's built like a football player, but his ball skills are not very developed.

I'll go ahead and predict that Oubre gets picked ahead of him.
 
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I'm watching Winslow v. NC, and he doesn't look good. He's hesitant to shoot, is hesitant to drive and just can't seem to do much in the half court. He's built like a football player, but his ball skills are not very developed.

I'll go ahead and predict that Oubre gets picked ahead of him.
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Winslow showing some life in the second half.
 
Catchall said:
I'm watching Winslow v. NC, and he doesn't look good. He's hesitant to shoot, is hesitant to drive and just can't seem to do much in the half court. He's built like a football player, but his ball skills are not very developed.

I'll go ahead and predict that Oubre gets picked ahead of him.
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I think Winslow would be fine in the right situation, but that's definitely not in Utah. I've said it before, but Utah needs to find offense to go with the players we already have. People keep talking about a defensive identity, but you can't build a team around defense and ignore the need to score. If Utah uses our draft pick to improve the offense, great, but we need to forget about drafting a defensive player that can't shoot. I'm not really sold on Booker, but I'd rather have him than a defensive wing that can't shoot.

Pick will be traded, most likely.
 
I predict the kings will draft wcs if he is available. the desperately need a defensive presence and he is the best and a great fit next to cousins.

hezonja is the best prospect outside the top 4 for the jazz. I like Johnson a lot and probably comes in 1b for me. if the jazz stay put booker is my pick with looney coming in second. I wouldn't mind the jazz drafting booker and trading him and hood for hezonja. Orlando seems to be a good trade partner and they might even like turner a lot or looney.
 
Watching Winslow reminds me of Deshawn Stevenson. He doesn't strike me as being our guy. He'll be a rotation player, but I'm not sure what he'll do that makes him much more. He's a perimeter defender and a guy who runs out on breaks. He'll go rebound if he's in range.

I think the Jazz WILL try to move up for top-7 talent in this draft. However, beyond that, I think they're really in the market for a stretch-big. They need a PF who can shoot from 18 - 25 feet. Keep an eye on Porzingis, Turner, Looney and Portis. There's still a chance they'll fall in love with Oubre and that he'll be there when we draft, but they'd have to conclude that he's markedly better than Hood and that there are enough minutes around Hayward and Burks in the rotation.
 
Catchall said:
I'm watching Winslow v. NC, and he doesn't look good. He's hesitant to shoot, is hesitant to drive and just can't seem to do much in the half court.
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Dante's twin separated at birth?

And agree this pick MIGHT be traded. But that's a tough decision. You MAYBE get a guy with a couple of years left before he's a free agent. With a draft pick, you have a cheap player for 4 years and can keep him for another 4 before he's an UFA. We aren't going to contend this year or next. We'll make the playoffs, but not contend. I think the time for trading picks might be 2017.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
I predict the kings will draft wcs if he is available. the desperately need a defensive presence and he is the best and a great fit next to cousins.

hezonja is the best prospect outside the top 4 for the jazz. I like Johnson a lot and probably comes in 1b for me. if the jazz stay put booker is my pick with looney coming in second. I wouldn't mind the jazz drafting booker and trading him and hood for hezonja. Orlando seems to be a good trade partner and they might even like turner a lot or looney.
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Serious question: is Booker really better than Fournier? Orlando will be higher in the draft order and will go BPA. They'll get a top-6 pick, and they need shooting as much or more than we do. Hezonja or Porzingis could be going to Orly. Hezonja could be the perfect SF for them.
 
Watch out for the 2024 draft. My daughter had another double-double today. She had 10 points, 20 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. Also made several girls pull the ball back down. Only one assist, though. I fear she's becoming a bit of a black hole now that she's learned how to score.
 
Okay, I'll do a quick mock based on the current draft order:

1 - Knicks take Towns - will develop offensively and provides better rim protection that Okafor
2 - Sixers take Okafor - Okafor can't go lower than #2; Sixers may trade the pick though
3 - T'wolves take Russell - BPA and they'll slide Wiggins to the SF, where he probably is already. Plus, there's PG insurance for Rubio.
4 - Lakers take Mudiay - PG of the future
5 - Magic take Hezonja - athletic wing playing between Oladipo and Aaron Gordon
6 - Kings take Cauley-Stein - rim projector with upside replacing Jason Thompson; they could go Porzingis here though.
7 - Nuggets take Porzingis - perceived BPA, though they could go Johnson
8 - Pistons take Johnson - They need an SF and get an SF. They'll take a look at Oubre too.

9 - Jazz take Oubre, Turner or Looney after a long conversation about Devin Booker, Frank Kaminsky and Jerian Grant.
 
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9 - Jazz take Oubre, Turner or Looney after a long conversation about Devin Booker, Frank Kaminsky and Jerian Grant.
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Jazz take whoever is left at #12. Grant is a name we don't hear a lot about. Credit to you for thinking he'll rise; we'll see. Like his size, though.
No Winslow? He'd fit with what seems to be our motto: Win Slow.
 
Catchall said:
Okay, I'll do a quick mock based on the current draft order:

1 - Knicks take Towns - will develop offensively and provides better rim protection that Okafor
2 - Sixers take Okafor - Okafor can't go lower than #2; Sixers may trade the pick though
3 - T'wolves take Russell - BPA and they'll slide Wiggins to the SF, where he probably is already. Plus, there's PG insurance for Rubio.
4 - Lakers take Mudiay - PG of the future
5 - Magic take Hezonja - athletic wing playing between Oladipo and Aaron Gordon
6 - Kings take Cauley-Stein - rim projector with upside replacing Jason Thompson; they could go Porzingis here though.
7 - Nuggets take Porzingis - perceived BPA, though they could go Johnson
8 - Pistons take Johnson - They need an SF and get an SF. They'll take a look at Oubre too.

9 - Jazz take Oubre, Turner or Looney after a long conversation about Devin Booker, Frank Kaminsky and Jerian Grant.
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At this juncture I like Oubre quite a bit. Good side, Smooth athlete, sweet stroke, and considerable upside.
 
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