Following potential 2015 draftees

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

At this juncture I like Oubre quite a bit. Good side, Smooth athlete, sweet stroke, and considerable upside.

I think the Jazz should go for upside, and I actually think Oubre is the right pick, unless you're willing to wait to develop Turner. The FO might figure Hood's good enough, we have Hayward at the 3, and we really want a stretch-big. Oubre will have to impress.

Winslow is dropping a bit for me. Just nothing stands out really other than decent on-the-ball defense and willingness to go after rebounds. He's also good in the open court though. He's tougher than Alec Burks, but really not as good.

Looney would basically be our attempt to find the next Draymond Green. I'm okay with it, but I don't see him as a guy who can really create offense.

 

[Batman]

I think the Jazz should go for upside, and I actually think Oubre is the right pick, unless you're willing to wait to develop Turner. The FO might figure Hood's good enough, we have Hayward at the 3, and we really want a stretch-big. Oubre will have to impress.

Winslow is dropping a bit for me. Just nothing stands out really other than decent on-the-ball defense and willingness to go after rebounds. He's also good in the open court though. He's tougher than Alec Burks, but really not as good.

Looney would basically be our attempt to find the next Draymond Green. I'm okay with it, but I don't see him as a guy who can really create offense.

I like Hood a lot but my concerns are his feet, lack of strength and lack of athleticism. I think he's a good second unit guy but I'm not sure he's the guy you want in your starting lineup if you want a title. I think Oubre has all the physical tools and skills to one day be a great starting 2 or 3 on a contender.

Also, I would probably compare Looney to Lamar Oden, not Draymond Green.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I like Hood a lot but my concerns are his feet, lack of strength and lack of athleticism. I think he's a good second unit guy but I'm not sure he's the guy you want in your starting lineup if you want a title. I think Oubre has all the physical tools and skills to one day be a great starting 2 or 3 on a contender.

Also, I would probably compare Looney to Lamar Oden, not Draymond Green.

I don't think Looney is as good as Odom. Odom had better mobility, a tighter handle and could get above the rim much easier than Looney seems to.

 

[stitches]

I just found this video from last year. It's 18 year old Vezenkov leading his team to the Greek cup final with his best performance at the time(24 pts, 10 rbs, 4 ast, 1 bl):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT4xIp05sOk

I love his shot. Very compact, high and extremely quick release. It's weird how he gets it off even with people right in his face.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Here's another game from this year. So apparently he's 6'9" ? He is a very confident shooter. That's for sure. He gets his shot off in about .3 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jYDtCk2KHU

 

[stitches]

Here's another game from this year. So apparently he's 6'9" ? He is a very confident shooter. That's for sure. He gets his shot off in about .3 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jYDtCk2KHU

His shot is extremely quick, but I'm not sure it's 0.3 seconds. According to Sports Science, Curry releases it in 0.4 seconds. Not sure if he's quicker than Curry...

About being a confident shooter - it helps that he's been shooting about 40% from 3 at pretty much any level he's competed at... BTW, this current season with increased usage, he's up to 42%...

He's 6'8'' in most pages I've seen, but you have to keep in mind that in Europe most posted measurements are barefoot, so he'd probably be 6'9'' in shoes.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I was just guessing...

Kudos to whomever brought up this kid. He's a real baller...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8pyH-XEYXc

 

[stitches]

I was just guessing...

Kudos to whomever brought up this kid. He's a real baller...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8pyH-XEYXc

'twas me!! I love watching him play. He's the most exciting player to watch in this year's draft. I know I've said in other threads that I don't see us getting another PG, but if we were to draft a PG, I'd absolutely love us to draft him if he slips to the second round.

 

[Hekate]

Vezenkov looks like he is very decisive. He knows what he is doing before he gets the ball most of the time. Ft number is a bit concerning since his shot is a thing of beauty. He needs to tighten up his handle, though. He should stay 1 or 2 years before coming to NBA. Would love him on the Jazz.

 

[stitches]

Vezenkov looks like he is very decisive. He knows what he is doing before he gets the ball most of the time. Ft number is a bit concerning since his shot is a thing of beauty. He needs to tighten up his handle, though. He should stay 1 or 2 years before coming to NBA. Would love him on the Jazz.

The thing I notice about him is that he avoids using his right hand to finish around the rim. He would rather make an awkward shot with the left than an easy one with the right.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Here's some more Oubre. This guy is going to rise when he starts working out for teams. Check out the strip and the Tmac-style finish at 1:55. He makes the game look easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHudI8GQypE

 

[stitches]

Here's one more nasty pass from Dunn in transition:
https://vine.co/v/OQLhMgLnYB9

And an alley-oop:
[gfy]GrouchyColorfulCottontail[/gfy]

 

[The Midnight]

Here's some more Oubre. This guy is going to rise when he starts working out for teams. Check out the strip and the Tmac-style finish at 1:55. He makes the game look easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHudI8GQypE

I'm willing to bet good money Dennis Lindsey shakes his head at Oubre's 'showtime' dunk at 2:56min.


Nothing against his talent & athleticism, I just don't think DL would see him as fitting our team first culture.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm willing to bet good money Dennis Lindsey shakes his head at Oubre's 'showtime' dunk at 2:56min.


Nothing against his talent & athleticism, I just don't think DL would see him as fitting our team first culture.

I'll take that bet. You are dumb. I don't like Oubre, but the things you are saying are ruhtarded.

 

[Dr. Jones]

One player I love and has never ben discussed here, iirc.. is Trevor Lacey. He was so close to choosing UK but went to some podunk school and then ended up at NC State.

SWAG.

I haven't checked the mock drafts for his name, but he is a value pick wherever he is listed.

 

[Dr. Jones]

.. Okay I just looked him up.. Projected to go undrafted.
Bring. Him. In.

Yes, I know he has no length.. But do it.

 

[orangello]

He's quite horrible. I don't like him... He's shooting something like... 35% for the season. He's of the Dion Waiters/Brandon Jennings ilk of players that make me cringe every time I watch them - horrible decision making, no PG skills ...for a PG, horrible shot-selection. If we are going to be taking a flyer on a second round PG, I'd rather go with Dunn(if he falls that far)...

Trey?

 

[Dr. Jones]

I think we're going to get a good player this year, this draft looks good.

I don't like this draft. Obviously there will be some good/very good players, but I view it as generally weak at the top and down from there.

 

[Jazz4ever]

PKM, er Dr. Jones, what do you think of Alec Peters out of Valpo? NBA stretch PF material?

 

[orangello]

I thought that E-X-U-M didn't spell bust but I'm starting to worry that I may have been wrong. Kid looks like he belongs in the WNBA.

This was from an article that came out today. I'm less and less worried about Exum.

"When we watched tape of Dante before the draft one of the questions that we had was can he defend at all? Because he didn’t. He just kind of hung out," Snyder says. "I’m not (surprised), having gotten to know him for two reasons. One: his frame, his length makes him unique. He’s different. It’s hard to measure that until you play against him. The other thing, I think Dante is trying to contribute any way he can. He’s figured it out."

Snyder is not overly concerned with Exum’s offense at this point, considering his age, talent and work ethic, as well as his team’s emerging identity.

"You can extrapolate when someone has an approach or the way they go about their craft, you can see that applied to other things," Snyder says. "It would be logical to think, ‘Hey if he goes about this the same way, it’s a matter of time before you see the same type of improvement.’ There’s only so many things you can improve on at once. This right now, frankly, is the priority for our team."