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Following potential 2015 draftees

I don't think the Jazz FO would trade Exum for Russell. They viewed him as their future star, and I think they still have faith that he'll get there.
 
Why would we trade Exum? As a rookie he's a huge part of our defensive fortitude! It would be foolish and short sided to trade him already. He's going to improve people, be patient. In the words of the great Aaron Rodgers, "R-E-L-A-X."
 
spycam1 said:
I don't think the Jazz FO would trade Exum for Russell. They viewed him as their future star, and I think they still have faith that he'll get there.
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I think they might consider it if it were straight up, but doubt they'd add any assets along with him (which is what it would likely take). I hope the FO at least attempts to throw everything outside of Exum, Hayward, Favors, & Gobert at whichever team ends up picking #3 (assuming Russell is still on the board). I wouldn't hesitate to trade (1 of) T.Burke/A.Burks/R.Hood/T.Booker, this year's pick, OKC, GSW, & a future 1st if it gave us a core of DE, D'AR, GH, DF, & RG moving forward. With a decent bench behind it, I could see that starting 5 compete for championships in the near future, given that DE & D'AR both turn into at least starting caliber players (which I see as the worst case scenario for both of them). That starting 5 could potentially provide everything you could possibly need to win a title. A pass 1st PG w great defense, an elite scoring SG, a do-it-all SF, a good offensive/great defensive PF, & an elite rim-protecting C. Probably just a pipedream at this point, but the more I dream about it, the more I'd be willing to give up anything & everything outside of the core 4 to make it happen. Even with a below-average bench, a team with that starting 5 could be a legitimate contender in a few years. Don't know if it would be financially possible to keep them together long enough for that to happen though, if they all develop into what is expected.
 
karl malone said:
I think they might consider it if it were straight up, but doubt they'd add any assets along with him (which is what it would likely take). I hope the FO at least attempts to throw everything outside of Exum, Hayward, Favors, & Gobert at whichever team ends up picking #3 (assuming Russell is still on the board). I wouldn't hesitate to trade (1 of) T.Burke/A.Burks/R.Hood/T.Booker, this year's pick, OKC, GSW, & a future 1st if it gave us a core of DE, D'AR, GH, DF, & RG moving forward. With a decent bench behind it, I could see that starting 5 compete for championships in the near future, given that DE & D'AR both turn into at least starting caliber players (which I see as the worst case scenario for both of them). That starting 5 could potentially provide everything you could possibly need to win a title. A pass 1st PG w great defense, an elite scoring SG, a do-it-all SF, a good offensive/great defensive PF, & an elite rim-protecting C. Probably just a pipedream at this point, but the more I dream about it, the more I'd be willing to give up anything & everything outside of the core 4 to make it happen. Even with a below-average bench, a team with that starting 5 could be a legitimate contender in a few years. Don't know if it would be financially possible to keep them together long enough for that to happen though, if they all develop into what is expected.
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I suspect Dante is going to go to work this summer and we will see a changed player by Training Camp.
 
karl malone said:
I think they might consider it if it were straight up, but doubt they'd add any assets along with him (which is what it would likely take). I hope the FO at least attempts to throw everything outside of Exum, Hayward, Favors, & Gobert at whichever team ends up picking #3 (assuming Russell is still on the board). I wouldn't hesitate to trade (1 of) T.Burke/A.Burks/R.Hood/T.Booker, this year's pick, OKC, GSW, & a future 1st if it gave us a core of DE, D'AR, GH, DF, & RG moving forward. With a decent bench behind it, I could see that starting 5 compete for championships in the near future, given that DE & D'AR both turn into at least starting caliber players (which I see as the worst case scenario for both of them). That starting 5 could potentially provide everything you could possibly need to win a title. A pass 1st PG w great defense, an elite scoring SG, a do-it-all SF, a good offensive/great defensive PF, & an elite rim-protecting C. Probably just a pipedream at this point, but the more I dream about it, the more I'd be willing to give up anything & everything outside of the core 4 to make it happen. Even with a below-average bench, a team with that starting 5 could be a legitimate contender in a few years. Don't know if it would be financially possible to keep them together long enough for that to happen though, if they all develop into what is expected.
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We just gotta pray for the luck of the Cavs.
 
I think Johnson and Hezonja are probably on a higher tier than Oubre and Winslow. Johnson was really impressive yesterday.

Will have to see how the tournament plays out though.
 
Catchall said:
I think Johnson and Hezonja are probably on a higher tier than Oubre and Winslow. Johnson was really impressive yesterday.

Will have to see how the tournament plays out though.
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That Arizona Ohio State game is going to be fun. Johnson looked smooth and completely unfazed. I don't see any way he lasts past #8.

Who knows on Hezonja... I think Euros tend to fall a bit because of uncertainty. Thought Saric slipped too far last year. Contract status/attitude may have him slip a bit.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
That Arizona Ohio State game is going to be fun. Johnson looked smooth and completely unfazed. I don't see any way he lasts past #8.

Who knows on Hezonja... I think Euros tend to fall a bit because of uncertainty. Thought Saric slipped too far last year. Contract status/attitude may have him slip a bit.
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I think the Euro draft positions are a doubled edged sword.
If a Euro likes a promise he's getting from a team, he'll be open about his contract situation and immediate future plans.
If he doesn't like the team or the salary attached to a draftpick that a team considers to promise him, he has most of the time a good incentive to be coy or develop with top Euroleague programs and enter 3 years later without being limited to the scale.
For Mirotic this has worked out, for Rubio it didn't because his team had real trouble financially. It has pros and cons.
But from a team perspective it probably matters depending on what they're trying to do short term, or how they feel short team chemistry development can affect the long term success.
 
BTP said:
I think the Euro draft positions are a doubled edged sword.
If a Euro likes a promise he's getting from a team, he'll be open about his contract situation and immediate future plans.
If he doesn't like the team or the salary attached to a draftpick that a team considers to promise him, he has most of the time a good incentive to be coy or develop with top Euroleague programs and enter 3 years later without being limited to the scale.
For Mirotic this has worked out, for Rubio it didn't because his team had real trouble financially. It has pros and cons.
But from a team perspective it probably matters depending on what they're trying to do short term, or how they feel short team chemistry development can affect the long term success.
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I agree. The issues with the Euros is that they're already under contract to play professionally, so both sides need to want to bring the player over, and the player has to pay some of the buy-out out of pocket. So there might be a financial incentive to put off the buy-out for a year or two if both sides aren't totally committed.
 
Catchall said:
I agree. The issues with the Euros is that they're already under contract to play professionally, so both sides need to want to bring the player over, and the player has to pay some of the buy-out out of pocket. So there might be a financial incentive to put off the buy-out for a year or two if both sides aren't totally committed.
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From a financial standpoint one or two years makes no sense. Either 0 or 3 going from that angle.
 
stitches said:
no


His 3p shot looks good. He's .396 on the season on 3 attempts per game. His midrange is suspect, also his FT% is weirdly low at 61%.
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Maybe it's because he's a lefty but he seem to **** it back a bit... Like he loads it up a bit. Might be better from 3 because he gets his full range of motion.

I really like his game for the most part. The midrange stuff is troubling. One thing I don't see pointed out much is he is good in the open court... Gets where he wants to go and is super smooth. If he falls id grab him. I like Johnson better though.
 
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