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Following potential 2015 draftees

Crocodile Dante said:
I started reading this until you said you used DX's mock draft. it specifically says that team needs are not taken into account meaning it is more about where they project players and not who the team will select.

new York could go a lot of directions Russell would be a great fit in the triangle. the triangle works best when a wing can score. okafor is also a great fit for the triangle.

the lakers need everything, if they are still top 4 come draft night they will select who ever is left from okafor, towns, Russell mudiay.

anyone can guess what Philly will do. I would be surprised to see them trade up and take okafor.

Orlando is the wild card imo, I think pg, sg and center are pretty set. is Gordon a 3 or a 4? will Harris re-sign? what will they do with harkless? will Vasquez draft scare them away from porzingis? they are building and elite defensive team wcs is the best defender of the bunch but not a good fit. Winslow or Johnson are good fits. they seems to value athletism so I am leaning more towards Winslow.
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I started reading this until.. <------- right there.
 
I'm kinda hyped about the first match tonight. This may be actually interesting and is not necessarily going to end in a 60-58 match of which team makes 1 less mistake than the other.
 
BTP said:
I'm kinda hyped about the first match tonight. This may be actually interesting and is not necessarily going to end in a 60-58 match of which team makes 1 less mistake than the other.
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Yeah, AZ athleticism and defense going against Whiskey's offensive efficiency and bbIQ.

Whiskey - 73
AZ - 68
 
Yeah.. those playing tonight (in just two games) that should get drafted in '15 or '16;

UK
Towns
WCS
Harrison
Harrison
Booker
Lyles
Johnson
Lee
Ulis
Notre Dame
Grant
Jackson
Auguste
Arizona
Johnson
Hollis-Jefferson
Tarczewski
Ashley
WISC
Kaminsky
Dekker
Hayes
 
Some serious nba talent going to be out there today. 5 or 6 guys I'd like to see on the jazz next year.

I wonder if Hollis-Jefferson will learn to shoot. I think he might be my favorite sleeper pick at the end if the first round.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Yeah.. those playing tonight (in just two games) that should get drafted in '15 or '16;

UK
Towns
WCS
Harrison
Harrison
Booker
Lyles
Johnson
Lee
Ulis
Notre Dame
Grant
Jackson
Auguste
Arizona
Johnson
Hollis-Jefferson
Tarczewski
Ashley
WISC
Kaminsky
Dekker
Hayes
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You think Tarczewski is going to get drafted?
 
Don't scouts or NBA commentators always say something like "Oh the tourney doesn't change their thinking about a prospect very much, most of the work is done during the year", etc, et, etc????


So far on DX: WCS has risen to #5, Winslow to #6 (ahead of Johnson at #7), Hezonja and Porzingis fallen to #8 and #9 respectively. Poeltl put o #11.


Good for us though, imagine getting Hezonja at #8 !!!!!!!! A real possibility now!!!!!
 
If a prospect like Hollis-Jefferson hasn't figured out his shot by now, pretty decent chance he's not going to ever be a good shooter! And I think anybody who doesn't like Winslow is crazy! He's an athletic specimen with a good game and high IQ. Those players win you games. There's no reason he can't have an impact like Draymond Green on a team.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Don't scouts or NBA commentators always say something like "Oh the tourney doesn't change their thinking about a prospect very much, most of the work is done during the year", etc, et, etc????


So far on DX: WCS has risen to #5, Winslow to #6 (ahead of Johnson at #7), Hezonja and Porzingis fallen to #8 and #9 respectively. Poeltl put o #11.


Good for us though, imagine getting Hezonja at #8 !!!!!!!! A real possibility now!!!!!
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DX is awesome, but they're just a mock draft! They're wrong more than they're right! I really don't think acting like they know how it's gonna go is very realistic. Sorry, just being honest!
 
Howard said:
DX is awesome, but they're just a mock draft! They're wrong more than they're right! I really don't think acting like they know how it's gonna go is very realistic. Sorry, just being honest!
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I'm not talking about the mock draft, I'm talking about the ranking. There is a difference. But like Croc.Dante mentioned before Ranking = Mock this time of the year by default.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Don't scouts or NBA commentators always say something like "Oh the tourney doesn't change their thinking about a prospect very much, most of the work is done during the year", etc, et, etc????


So far on DX: WCS has risen to #5, Winslow to #6 (ahead of Johnson at #7), Hezonja and Porzingis fallen to #8 and #9 respectively. Poeltl put o #11.


Good for us though, imagine getting Hezonja at #8 !!!!!!!! A real possibility now!!!!!
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Froshs have a very limited sample size anyways. And if you can see a tendency or they start showing something new, slight changes are always possible. WCS has been as high as #3 before. I think he had health issues in the middle of the season?!
Winslow was projected #4 early in the season and he's been very solid for 2 months now and arguably the best player in 2 Duke tournament games. He has found different ways to impact the outcome of games over the course of the season. Scouts like that, especially if it resuls in efficient scoring from a freshman.

Hezonja and Porzingis have been streaky all season long(not surprising given their age, experience and competition)
Both haven't been very productive, it impacts their stock if others are excelling. Hezonja is being used as a heat check guy for Barcelona and apparently his team is unhappy about him being vocal on intending to join an NBA team this summer.
Porzingis getts consistent playing time on a weaker team, but sometimes he doesn't find ways to impact the game in countable ways.
 
BTP said:
Froshs have a very limited sample size anyways. And if you can see a tendency or they start showing something new, slight changes are always possible. WCS has been as high as #3 before. I think he had health issues in the middle of the season?!
Winslow was projected #4 early in the season and he's been very solid for 2 months now and arguably the best player in 2 Duke tournament games. He has found different ways to impact the outcome of games over the course of the season. Scouts like that, especially if it resuls in efficient scoring from a freshman.

Hezonja and Porzingis have been streaky all season long(not surprising given their age, experience and competition)
Both haven't been very productive, it impacts their stock if others are excelling. Hezonja is being used as a heat check guy for Barcelona and apparently his team is unhappy about him being vocal on intending to join an NBA team this summer.
Porzingis getts consistent playing time on a weaker team, but sometimes he doesn't find ways to impact the game in countable ways.
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Don't get me wrong I love what is happening. It's making guys like Hezonja and Porzingis potentially reachable. Both of them were looking like a lock for a top #5 pick depending on who you listen (Ford or DX).
 
ONE LOVE said:
Don't get me wrong I love what is happening. It's making guys like Hezonja and Porzingis potentially reachable. Both of them were looking like a lock for a top #5 pick depending on who you listen (Ford or DX).
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I should have been listening more to Ford, it is very smart in retrospect!
 
I'm fooling around with the ESPN lottery machine. Here are a few of Chad Ford's conclusions, based on what I'm seeing:

- He still thinks Looney is a top 7 pick.
- He thinks WCS, Porzingis and Looney will push the wings down to the 8th spot and below.
- He thinks several teams would take Oubre ahead of Johnson
- He thinks either Oubre or Johnson will be available to the Jazz at #11
- He thinks Hezonja could be available at #9

So Ford's Big Board would look like this....(though I don't have insider):

1 Okafor (range = 1 - 2)
2 Towns (range = 1 - 4)
3 Mudiay (range = 2 - 5)
4 Russell (range = 3 - 4)
5 Porzingis (range = 5 - 6)
6 Cauley-Stein (range = 6 - 7)
7 Looney (range = 7 - 10)
8 Winslow (range = 5 - 8) - only the Sixers might take Winslow at #5 if they land that spot
9 Hezonja (range = 8 - 9)
10 Oubre (range = 9 - 11)
11 Turner (range = 9 - 14)
12 Johnson (range = 11 - 13)
13 Kaminsky (range = 11 - 14)
 
Catchall said:
I'm fooling around with the ESPN lottery machine. Here are a few of Chad Ford's conclusions, based on what I'm seeing:

- He still thinks Looney is a top 7 pick.
- He thinks WCS, Porzingis and Looney will push the wings down to the 8th spot and below.
- He thinks several teams would take Oubre ahead of Johnson
- He thinks either Oubre or Johnson will be available to the Jazz at #11
- He thinks Hezonja could be available at #9

So Ford's Big Board would look like this....(though I don't have insider):

1 Okafor (range = 1 - 2)
2 Towns (range = 1 - 4)
3 Mudiay (range = 2 - 5)
4 Russell (range = 3 - 4)
5 Porzingis (range = 5 - 6)
6 Cauley-Stein (range = 6 - 7)
7 Looney (range = 7 - 10)
8 Winslow (range = 5 - 8) - only the Sixers might take Winslow at #5 if they land that spot
9 Hezonja (range = 8 - 9)
10 Oubre (range = 9 - 11)
11 Turner (range = 9 - 14)
12 Johnson (range = 11 - 13)
13 Kaminsky (range = 11 - 14)
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Looney doesn't belong... Ford will come around. Turner and Looney are the guys I hope another team falls in love with and takes early pushing someone good back to us.
 
This is amazing. UK's two PG's are sophomore Andrew Harrison and freshman Tyler Ulis. One year apart in age.





They began playing against each other in middle school.






This is a pic of them from middle school (actual, not shopped).






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Dr. Jones said:
This is amazing. UK's two PG's are sophomore Andrew Harrison and freshman Tyler Ulis. One year apart in age.





They began playing against each other in middle school.






This is a pic of them from middle school (actual, not shopped).






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He probably owned them too. Ulis one of the good UK players.
 
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