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I dunno I just think Winslow/Johnson are safer picks from the physical standpoint, they'll match up well against NBA players at least physically. Defensively they are also more solid.


Those are the questions I would have about Hezonja, but I know that he has a higher upside offensively vs those 2.


I think Winslow is a safe pick. Johnson actually has a few question marks based on how he's going to fit offensively as an SF or PF, though he'll do fine defensively. Hezonja is a prototypical wing. I have no issue with him at all.

The slightly risky guys look to be Mudiay (if he doesn't learn to shoot) or Porzingis (if he can't rebound and compete physically at NBA size and speed).
 
Hezonja has some Kanter potential... he could be a bit entitled or have a poor attitude. The Euro league environment is different so who knows why he is not playing.

Skill wise I'm in.

I like the DX top ten in this draft... outside those guys I think its pretty meh.
 
Barcelona is a team that invests into prospects at a young age. THey'd prefer to extend his contract through 2019/2020, so they can have him for more productive years instead of only guiding his early development AND score a buyout in 2018 when he's no longer bound to the rookie scale. Hezonja seems to have other plans though. They could try to hurt his draft position to improve their chances to get it their way(Depending on how huge his buyout is and how much he can earn on his rookie contract it can be very problematic to get him over asap)
 
So for second round picks if they come out does anyone like Sabonis or Karnowski from Gonzaga?
Sabonis looks good. A big man who can get to the basket and a very good passer.
Has to be good if he's Arvydas son.
 
Barcelona is a team that invests into prospects at a young age. THey'd prefer to extend his contract through 2019/2020, so they can have him for more productive years instead of only guiding his early development AND score a buyout in 2018 when he's no longer bound to the rookie scale. Hezonja seems to have other plans though. They could try to hurt his draft position to improve their chances to get it their way(Depending on how huge his buyout is and how much he can earn on his rookie contract it can be very problematic to get him over asap)

That seems plausible for sure and alleviates my concern. If have an attitude if someone was pulling that garbage with me as well.

I guess I was a little gun shy with the whole kanter being a douchey bish.
 
So for second round picks if they come out does anyone like Sabonis or Karnowski from Gonzaga?
Sabonis looks good. A big man who can get to the basket and a very good passer.
Has to be good if he's Arvydas son.
Karnowski is a really good passer too. I thought the best on Gonzaga. Havent seen a lot of their games though.
 
The Jazz are bound to draft Kaminsky. They're all in on making the playoffs next year which means they're done picking investment/potential guys. DL still yearns for his stretch 4 too. Gonna happen.
 
The Jazz are bound to draft Kaminsky. They're all in on making the playoffs next year which means they're done picking investment/potential guys. DL still yearns for his stretch 4 too. Gonna happen.

Jazz have informed Tomic they are going to try and buy him out. They are going to put a big effort into signing him. Does not mean he will come for sure but I think it is very likely since the Jazz can pay him more than his team can. I see very little chance they draft Kaminsky if Tomic is happening.

https://www.basketballinsiders.com/chat/nba-overseas-chat-with-david-pick-32815/
 
Guys! Dray Green is a very unique player/skillset. I think yall are being a bit overboard with how many players you're comparing to him!
 
Jazz have informed Tomic they are going to try and buy him out. They are going to put a big effort into signing him. Does not mean he will come for sure but I think it is very likely since the Jazz can pay him more than his team can. I see very little chance they draft Kaminsky if Tomic is happening.

https://www.basketballinsiders.com/chat/nba-overseas-chat-with-david-pick-32815/

What if Tomic says I only come over if you draft my bff Hezonja? Jazz would have to give a significant piece to move up from 12 to 7.
 
That seems plausible for sure and alleviates my concern. If have an attitude if someone was pulling that garbage with me as well.

I guess I was a little gun shy with the whole kanter being a douchey bish.

Well look at the team's side: They invest big into promising 16 year olds. They want some return as well. And they find themselves in a situation where these kids are willing to do these contracts, which enable them to have this kind of leverage. NBA teams aren't nicer about these stuff.
 
New Hezonja mix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9R05d01sRE

I think the complaints about him being selfish are a little outdated. Last year he would play less than 10 minutes a game or something and he would take bad shots since he wouldn't get many opportunities to shoot.
 
New Hezonja mix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9R05d01sRE

I think the complaints about him being selfish are a little outdated. Last year he would play less than 10 minutes a game or something and he would take bad shots since he wouldn't get many opportunities to shoot.

I really want Mario if we can't get russell.

That windmill dunk is pretty sweet. I wish Hayward or Burks would bust out something like that on a breakaway once in a while
 
If drafting Winslow or Johnson over Hezonja is a matter of wanting to go with the safer pick, especially considering the questions still surrounding Exum, I can understand not wanting to take the chance on another risk (although I don't feel Hezonja is nearly as risky as most think due to his length & athleticism- although his attitude could possibly become a problem in the wrong atmosphere, which I don't think would be a problem here- & while Winslow is certainly the safer pick of the 3, Johnson- & even Winslow to a certain extent- still come with some risk). But if drafting Winslow or Johnson over Hezonja is a matter of wanting immediate contribution from this year's draft pick, I think it would be a mistake to pass on a player such as Hezonja (who has the potential to become exactly what we're missing- an elite scorer- regardless of how long it may take for him to reach that potential), especially considering where Exum is in his development.

Trade Burke for a future asset (or backup C if Tomic doesn't come over) & sign a legitimate backup PG.

Exum/FA
Burks/Hezonja/Millsap
Hayward/Hood/Ingles
Favors/Booker
Gobert/Tomic

We could be competitive enough to satisfy fans (6-8 seed if things go right) &, so long as Exum/Hezonja develop into starting caliber players, we could be an elite team in a few years. I may feel differently if Exum were further along in his development (which is why I wouldn't be completely opposed to moving him in the right trade), but we appear committed to him, so while I understand drafting Winslow is the safe pick & would make Exum's development (slightly) less crucial to the overall development of the team, he still needs to become a very good player for this team to become championship caliber & even if he does become a very good player, Exum still doesn't project as an elite scorer (neither does Winslow or anyone else on this roster- though Hayward has proven to be a definite #2 option & Favors/Burks/Hood all have good offensive potential).

We've already taken a risk in Exum, so I think it makes sense to go for the homerun. Even if only one of Exum/Hezonja reach their potential, we would have the foundation of a team that could compete for multiple championships over the next 10 years. I can understand having reservations about putting so much stock into 2 players with so many question marks, but I see Winslow as more of a complimentary player than a potential star (not meant as a knock on him, he could even make an ASG or 2, just don't see him ever becoming the 20+ ppg scorer that we need). On this roster, Hezonja definitely looks like the better fit long-term to me. Under different circumstances, I could certainly understand going with Winslow, such as if we were to throw a curve ball & trade Exum+ for a top 10 PG, but if we're going to wait the 2-3 years it looks like we're prepared to wait for Exum to develop, why not wait on Hezonja as well, especially when it's unlikely that Winslow would push us over the top during those 2-3 years (& that's assuming that Winslow can contribute immediately & that Hezonja can't- neither of which are a given), as well as the fact that this season has proven that the core of this team is good enough to be competitive, regardless of who else is around them.
 
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This is a crucial draft for us. My hope is that we are able to acquire whoever remains (or costs the least amount of additional assets along with whatever draft pick we end up with to move up for) out of:

(In this order)

Russell
Towns
Mudiay
Okafor
Hezonja
Winslow
Johnson
WCS

The top 4 are all extremely unlikely without lottery luck or a major trade & WCS will likely be drafted early due to the value of defensive bigs. Any of the remaining 3 wings would be great, & while I do prefer Hezonja long-term, I expect that the FO will sit back & see how the draft unfolds & take (or make a minor move up for) whichever one is still on the board near our pick. Hopefully a player or 2 not on that list jumps ahead of 1 or 2 of those guys & 1 of them falls into our lap. Getting one of those 3 wings without having to use any additional assets would be a major step in the right direction.
 
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