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Following potential 2015 draftees

Howard said:
WCS will be a huge bust. Dude has no offensive game.
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Neither do Tyson Chandler, DeAndre Jordan, Andre Drummond and Rudy Gobert. So?

ONE LOVE said:
Rodney Hood with another strong game: 17pts, 5reb, 2assists, 1 steal.


Can Hood be a starter in this league next to Gordon Hayward? If he can... I think we take Kaminsky without blinking an eyelid at #11 which is where we're picking. He's the perfect fit as the 3rd/4th big off the bench. Someone with NBA length, can score inside and outside effectively, likes to pass, can play both C/PF if need be. A total team player too.
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Hood can be a starter eventually. I won't say that about a rookie, even if he's a senior. But if you want to win a championship you need another wing defender to hide him on the weaker assignment, that's more help defense dependent. The Jazz don't have an elite defensive player on the wing.
 
BTP said:
Hood can be a starter eventually. I won't say that about a rookie, even if he's a senior. But if you want to win a championship you need another wing defender to hide him on the weaker assignment, that's more help defense based.
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Hayward is a pretty good defender, and he is improving. Remember that game he had defensively against Carmelo?


Plus we do have Favors/Gobert, our defensive system seems to be funnelling everyone through to them anyway.


I think team defense is more important than any 1 person.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Hayward is a pretty good defender, and he is improving. Remember that game he had defensively against Carmelo?


Plus we do have Favors/Gobert, our defensive system seems to be funnelling everyone through to them anyway.


I think team defense is more important than any 1 person.
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It is. But as soon as you don't have the guy who can stay in front, it opens up the court for the opponent and Gobert/Fav can only deter so many shots near the rim.
 
BTP said:
It is. But as soon as you don't have the guy who can stay in front, it opens up the court for the opponent and Gobert/Fav can only deter so many shots near the rim.
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Well as I'd said, we have an improving Hayward.


I'd rather have a SOLID backup big. Imagine if Favors or Gobert is injured - who have we got that can back them up? Kaminsky can be that guy for the next 7+ years.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Well as I'd said, we have an improving Hayward.


I'd rather have a SOLID backup big. Imagine if Favors or Gobert is injured - who have we got that can back them up? Kaminsky can be that guy for the next 7+ years.
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Aren't the Jazz bringing over two more 7'2 guys from Barcelona? If we draft a big, the guy I want to have is Porzingis. My secret irrational non performance based man crush this year.
I really hope the Jazz start benching everybody but Exum and Gobert to bottom out the last games. There is literally no reason not to try to drop to #9 pre lottery.
 
BTP said:
Aren't the Jazz bringing over two more 7'2 guys from Barcelona? If we draft a big, the guy I want to have is Porzingis. My secret irrational non performance based man crush this year.
I really hope the Jazz start benching everybody but Exum and Gobert to bottom out the last games. There is literally no reason not to try to drop to #9 pre lottery.
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Kaminsky's more skilled offensively than those 2, he can handle the ball, can drive it. He can also shoot the 3 which those 2 can't. He's also younger. Just a much better potential overall in the long term.
 
No way Kaminsky falls to us at #11, especially with how much teams want/need a true stretch 4 nowadays.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Kaminsky's more skilled offensively than those 2, he can handle the ball, can drive it. He can also shoot the 3 which those 2 can't. He's also younger. Just a much better potential overall in the long term.
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I wouldn't underestimate the difference in the level of competition these are facing. Of course he can shoot, but for me I'm like: So can Porzingis.
That doesn't mean I dislike Kaminsky. He's good. But I think to become a championship caliber team that wing defender is missing. Even though maybe you can solve the wing situation with someone like RHJ in the late 20s, who is only on the floor together with a stretching big and does part time coverage on the best wing attackers in the league, where you try to disrupt them with changing coverages, changing covers and constant energy. So it's not like I'd solely prefer a 3+D or best case a 2 way wing. I just think it would give the Jazz more options. And more options usually lead to better solutions.
 
I still love Justin Anderson.

I still love the idea of trading out for Harrison Barnes.

right now my draft would be draft Kelly oubre and trade him for Harrison Barnes.
draft Andrew Harrison in the second and vezenkov.

exum, Burke, Harrison
Hayward, burks, millsap
Barnes, hood, ingles
favors, booker
Gobert, tomic, pleiss
 
I think Andrew Harrison endorses Kaminsky in the draft.

But it's amazing how people drink the Kool-Aid when a player has a good NCAA run. Example: the Trey Burke hype was pretty mediocre until the tournament began and as it progressed a lot of us became obsessed with drafting Burke.

Yet, oddly enough, Hayward didn't garnish a lot of support pre-draft after the tournament. I know some forum posters wanted him but not a lot of people had him as their first choice.

Though I will add slaying the Kentucky dragon is very impressive.
 
kabenac said:
I think Andrew Harrison endorses Kaminsky in the draft.

But it's amazing how people drink the Kool-Aid when a player has a good NCAA run. Example: the Trey Burke hype was pretty mediocre until the tournament began and as it progressed a lot of us became obsessed with drafting Burke.

Yet, oddly enough, Hayward didn't garnish a lot of support pre-draft after the tournament. I know some forum posters wanted him but not a lot of people had him as their first choice.

Though I will add slaying the Kentucky dragon is very impressive.
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Burke's stock was probably highest going into the tournament, but didn't really rise once in it. He had two awful games in the tournament.
Dekkar, on the other hand, has went full beast mode in every tournament game.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Burke's stock was probably highest going into the tournament, but didn't really rise once in it. He had two awful games in the tournament.
Dekkar, on the other hand, has went full beast mode in every tournament game.
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I still remember the shot against Kansas (down by three) to force overtime and the eventual Sweet 16 win - Burke fever was definitely at its highest during the tournament.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Kaminsky's more skilled offensively than those 2, he can handle the ball, can drive it. He can also shoot the 3 which those 2 can't. He's also younger. Just a much better potential overall in the long term.
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sometimes, I swear, you get this itch in your brain and completely disregard facts in your pursuit of you opinion. tomic is one of the most gifted offensive centers in the world, and he has done it on the hardest stage out side of the nba.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
sometimes, I swear, you get this itch in your brain and completely disregard facts in your pursuit of you opinion. tomic is one of the most gifted offensive centers in the world, and he has done it on the hardest stage out side of the nba.
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I agree with this. Although I think frank is a better fit long term than tomic and would be cheaper. Tomic would likely have a bigger impact next year and is very polished offensively. Just not sure if what he does will work well with our other bigs.
 
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