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Following potential 2015 draftees

My guess is that we will draft whoever remains out of:

(In no particular order)


Towns
Okafor
Russell
Mudiay
Hezonja
Winslow
WCS
Turner
Porzingis
Johnson
Booker
Kaminsky
 
I feel like people didn't watch frank enough. He isn't just a spot up guy like Frye is... Great off the pump fake and drive... Great passer. I think he's much more brad miller, memo okur.
 
Frank is going to be difficult to cover in the high post can shoot pass or drive. He didn't get there much in college because there is no high post in college cuz the spacing is poop.
 
ONE LOVE said:
I'm excited about that prospect also PLUS:


- Kaminsky seems to be a lot smarter as a team player - you can run plays through him, the ball seems to 'stuck' with Kanter


- He is a decent passer also with 2.6 assists per game


- He already has a much better range than Kanter too shooting 41.6% from college 3's.


BUT my main concern would be whether he has NBA strength and quickness to defend in the NBA. Also if he is indeed our future 3rd big, the Gobert/Kaminsky lineup could mean one of them will have to guard quicker stretch 4's and that could be an issue.
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What makes a stretch big a stretch big is that they can stretch the defense with shooting. That term has nothing to do with quickness, and neither Gobert nor Favors have an issue with agility. The issue is that someone has to stay with a shooter, and that's always been the issue.
 
NUMBERICA said:
What makes a stretch big a stretch big is that they can stretch the defense with shooting. That term has nothing to do with quickness, and neither Gobert nor Favors have an issue with agility. The issue is that someone has to stay with a shooter, and that's always been the issue.
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Well let's say going up against the Bogut/Green lineup. If Favors is on the bench, one of Gobert/Kaminsky would have to chase Green around the perimeter, which would be a tough ask for either one of them.
 
Yeah, Frank looks pretty good to me. I'm a little bit racist I guess because on first glance he just looks like a lurpy white stiff. But he's no idiot and has gotten better all his 4 years of NCAA ball. Put some muscle on him and he should be pretty good. His offense is just what the Jazz need. His 3pt % is about same as Booker's (in a spot the Jazz need).

One question: how is his lateral quickness? He's not explosive, no, but he's smart and seems to play passable defense. Right? I saw him in the tournament and he looked ok.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Well let's say going up against the Bogut/Green lineup. If Favors is on the bench, one of Gobert/Kaminsky would have to chase Green around the perimeter, which would be a tough ask for either one of them.
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1. It wouldn't be for Favors, except for him wanting to or being asked to also protect the rim simultaneously.
2. Kaminsky's only positive attributes that he has defensively is his mobility and effort.
3. "Chasing"? Do Golden State run him off screens to get him shots?
 
NUMBERICA said:
1. It wouldn't be for Favors, except for him wanting to or being asked to also protect the rim simultaneously.
2. Kaminsky's only positive attributes that he has defensively is his mobility and effort.
3. "Chasing"? Do Golden State run him off screens to get him shots?
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Green mostly spots up... Not really an issue. The bigger issue would be switching on pick and rolls. He won't be a good defender... If he was he'd be picked higher than 12. No perfect players where we are drafting.
 
NUMBERICA said:
1. It wouldn't be for Favors, except for him wanting to or being asked to also protect the rim simultaneously.
2. Kaminsky's only positive attributes that he has defensively is his mobility and effort.
3. "Chasing"? Do Golden State run him off screens to get him shots?
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Let's not get too specific with this example. I like Kaminsky at #12, but I'm afraid teams would simply go 'small ball' when Gobert/Kaminsky pairing is on the floor.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Let's not get too specific with this example. I like Kaminsky at #12, but I'm afraid teams would simply go 'small ball' when Gobert/Kaminsky pairing is on the floor.
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Memphis showed that they could also punish gsw when they did on the other end but the jazz don't have a post player like Randolph.
 
I'm thinking the Jazz will go for a multi-skilled big---Turner, Kaminsky, Looney, Lyles, maybe Portis (though his interview I saw was pretty raw).

The only exception would be someone prominent dropping (like Johnson) or Booker blowing the Jazz away in workouts.

I think the Jazz will try hard to trade up for Porzingis.
 
Regardless of whether teams go small or not, we want our bigs to be able to switch and guard on the perimeter in order for our schemes to work. This is what I wonder about with Kaminsky and Lyles.
 
Catchall said:
Regardless of whether teams go small or not, we want our bigs to be able to switch and guard on the perimeter in order for our schemes to work. This is what I wonder about with Kaminsky and Lyles.
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Yeah exactly. I still think Quin can make it work. Kaminsky's skill and shooting is too good to pass up.


I haven't watched a lot of CHI ball but they do start Noah next to Pau... would be interested to see how Thibodeau designed a defensive scheme that works with those 2 on the floor at the same time.
 
Catchall said:
Regardless of whether teams go small or not, we want our bigs to be able to switch and guard on the perimeter in order for our schemes to work. This is what I wonder about with Kaminsky and Lyles.
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Portis. Watch the videos of him switching on the perimeter. Favor-esque.
 
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