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Following potential 2015 draftees

Does anyone have any pause regarding Johnson's height? He measured shorter than many thought.

I still have a good feeling about him, but I'm not as confident as others are about him playing the 4. I think he's a 3 or a 2. Which is fine if he's as special as we all think he'll be.
 
stormkoopacv03 said:
Every time I visit the nbadraft.net they have us drafting Sam Dekker. They seem so intent on the Jazz drafting him. It's been updated like 3 or 4 times and still no change. I mean, I like Dekker but I feel he ain't our biggest need since we got Hood that's better.
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Dekker and Hood aren't similar at all... Hood is way better.
 
BENTLEY said:
Does anyone have any pause regarding Johnson's height? He measured shorter than many thought.

I still have a good feeling about him, but I'm not as confident as others are about him playing the 4. I think he's a 3 or a 2. Which is fine if he's as special as we all think he'll be.
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similar in size to Harrison Barnes (height) and Tobias Harris. Don't think its his full time position, but he can definitely play some minutes there.
 
I love Stanley Johnson, just haven't talked about him much cause I think he won't be there and I don't want to get my hopes up.
 
With young talent at every position, it's impossible to know what this FO is going to do in the upcoming draft. They have shown a willingness to be aggressive & move up for a player (Burke & Gobert), as well as a willingness to stand pat & draft BPA (Exum & Hood). They've shown a willingness to draft more polished/NBA-ready prospects at positions of need (Burke & Hood), as well as a willingness to draft based on upside/potential even at positions that weren't necessarily considered needs at the time (Gobert & Exum). It's this willingness to adapt philosophies that makes it extremely difficult to predict what they are going to do come draft time. The one consistent trait in those picks is value. Burke, Exum, & Hood were all expected to be selected earlier than they were, as was Gobert (although more so in the eyes of the FO than the rest of the league).

DL said that our biggest need heading into this off-season was shooting & that our biggest priority was to improve without disrupting team chemistry (or something along those lines). It has also been stated (I'm not sure by who) that we have identified three tiers in this draft (totalling 16 players) which seems to indicate that we are comfortable moving up, down, or not at all. Based on recent drafts & statements, it seems like the qualities that we will prioritize in potential draftees are:

(In no specific order)
-Longterm potential
-Character/work ethic/motor
-Potential to develop a consistent 3 pt shot
-Potential to develop into a two-way player (at least average on both sides of the ball)

The last quality is the reason I am somewhat skeptical of our level of interest in Kaminsky (as well as Porzingis to some extent), although I believe they would be willing to make an exception (in both cases) due to their desire to add shooting (especially from a big), as well as their need for a backup C (in the case of Kaminsky). It is also the reason that I believe Booker is at the top of their third tier (or possibly even in the second tier), as his times & measurements seem to indicate that he should become an average defender at minimum. This is also the reason I believe that they may prefer Turner out of the non-1st tier bigs, as well as the reason I believe they covet players such as Hezonja, Winslow, & Johnson.

It will be interesting to see what they do in the draft as it will be a good indicator of how they will approach the rest of the off-season. The only things that seem certain as far as their philosophy come draft night is that they will be opportunistic (if possible), extract what they view as the most amount of value out of the pick(s), prioritize the long-term, & heavily weigh character (& it's potential impact on team chemistry).
 
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I agree with karl malone's post.
Can't wait to see what DL does with Jazz picks.
DL wants guys who play Quin's system.
DL wants guys who want to win and don't care about personal stats.
If they don't he gets rid of them like Kanter.
 
They interviewed DL on the radio and they asked him if the Jazz already have a big board ranking all the players. DL said no, we'll get there, but right now we have not done that. Every dude on Jazzfanz has done that and the Jazz haven't??? We're all guessing what the Jazz will do when they haven't figured out what their gonna do.
 
sojodave said:
They interviewed DL on the radio and they asked him if the Jazz already have a big board ranking all the players. DL said no, we'll get there, but right now we have not done that. Every dude on Jazzfanz has done that and the Jazz haven't??? We're all guessing what the Jazz will do when they haven't figured out what their gonna do.
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1. Who knows if they haven't actually.
2. This is their jobs and lives. They take this A LOT more seriously than ANY of us ever COULD. They're probably pouring over a quantity and quality of information that boggles the mind.
 
NUMBERICA said:
1. Who knows if they haven't actually.
2. This is their jobs and lives. They take this A LOT more seriously than ANY of us ever COULD. They're probably pouring over a quantity and quality of information that boggles the mind.
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3. They also have other basketball related operations to think about.
 
sojodave said:
They interviewed DL on the radio and they asked him if the Jazz already have a big board ranking all the players. DL said no, we'll get there, but right now we have not done that. Every dude on Jazzfanz has done that and the Jazz haven't??? We're all guessing what the Jazz will do when they haven't figured out what their gonna do.
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fire^99!
 
NUMBERICA said:
1. Who knows if they haven't actually.
2. This is their jobs and lives. They take this A LOT more seriously than ANY of us ever COULD. They're probably pouring over a quantity and quality of information that boggles the mind.
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Cy said:
3. They also have other basketball related operations to think about.
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4. Even if they gave some info on where they are at with certain players, it's just as likely as not to be smoke and mirrors. Everything is about maneuvering to get the guy you want, or fleece someone else for the guy they want because they think you might take him first. There's stuff you take with a grain of salt, and then there's a time when you use a truck spreader like they use on the road in the wintertime.
 
sojodave said:
They interviewed DL on the radio and they asked him if the Jazz already have a big board ranking all the players. DL said no, we'll get there, but right now we have not done that. Every dude on Jazzfanz has done that and the Jazz haven't??? We're all guessing what the Jazz will do when they haven't figured out what their gonna do.
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He said they don't want to build a board that early, before they've started the final discussions with each other and before they get all the information for the prospects(i.e. all the tape, all the interviews, individual work outs, etc.), because they don't want to fall victims to certain cognitive biases (like confirmation bias, recency bias(said they are watching video not in chronological order to avoid that one too), etc.) in constructing their big board. That's actually a really smart move and should be taken as a huge positive, rather than as a sign of neglect or lack of seriousness in the draft process.
 
Even if he can only make it to this . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdA-A5_3MvE

then I think we'd be PRETTY DAMN HAPPY to have him. I'm not counting on anything, but I'm really hoping that the Jazz are targeting a trade up with Denver, Detroit or Charlotte to get one of Hezonja, Johnson or Porzingis. I don't think any of them fall to 12, so the Jazz are going to have to pay something to go up to get one of them. I really do think that one of those 3 guys will fall into that range AND they each have All-Star potential if they're developed correctly.
 
stitches said:
He said they don't want to build a board that early, before they've started the final discussions with each other and before they get all the information for the prospects(i.e. all the tape, all the interviews, individual work outs, etc.), because they don't want to fall victims to certain cognitive biases (like confirmation bias, recency bias(said they are watching video not in chronological order to avoid that one too), etc.) in constructing their big board. That's actually a really smart move and should be taken as a huge positive, rather than as a sign of neglect or lack of seriousness in the draft process.
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PRECISEE
 
NUMBERICA said:
Is there any reason more people aren't clammoring to get Carroll back besides his age?
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Age and cost. He's a guy that would improve team chemistry, AND he has proven that he's a strong starter on a playoff team.

If I thought that the Jazz could get him back, I'd gladly see them spend to do it. They never should have let him leave in the first place. Had he been extended back before the tank, I think that they'd be pulling out all the stops to retain him. They should at least inquire to see if he'd be interested in coming back. It kicks both Burks and Hood to the bench, but so be it.

I'm not sure that the Jazz have the cap space to pull it off without giving up Trevor Booker, and Junkyard Dog is going to have a LOT of suitors clamoring for his next contract. He's still not yet 30, so I could see him being a solid starter for the next 3-4 years easily.

Gobert, Favors, Carroll, Hayward and Exum would be an incredibly long and aggressive starting 5. Imagine how solid they'd be on defense, without losing anything offensively. I love how Hood played down the stretch, but Carroll is the better overall offensive player. Round out the bench with Booker, Hood, Burks, Jingles, Burke, the 2015 pick(s), Lil'Sap and Cotton. . . I'd like that team a lot.
 
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