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Following potential 2015 draftees

Handlogten's Heros said:
Again... When the main argument against a player starts with their age and not their skill, size, athleticism not sure that you've done enough homework.

Frank also led two... Two great final four runs. You guys can sleep on Frank all u want but his teams won and a lot if it was because of him.
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And he did that within the poor spacing of college ball. From what I've seen, he'll get better with more space.

I'd be happy with Frank.
 
Every analytics model that accounts for age loves Frank which is really rare. I like Locke and think he's great to have as an insider but I wouldn't trust him on Frank. I'm not even sure he's watched him... He hates college basketball.
 
NAOS said:
And he did that within the poor spacing of college ball. From what I've seen, he'll get better with more space.

I'd be happy with Frank.
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Just imagine him setting ball screens in the horns sets... Can shoot pass or drive... Big sticks with him and it creates lanes for Hayward, Burks, and hood. Big switches Frank hits the jumper... They bring an extra defender he passes to the open man.
 
I think Frank would be a nice pick. It's not super high upside, there is no way you're getting a star, but I think there is a very very very slim chance he's not a solid rotation player within a year or two. That is a lot more confidence than I have in someone like Oubre.
 
When you draft kaminsky your looking at a good back up for your team that can come in and produce from the get go. You aren't getting potential. You might look back on the draft and feel stupid because someone like Turner turned out really good, but you were also likely not drafting a bust.

I like kaminsky because he'll help us next year heading towards the playoffs and filling a need.
 
Howard said:
Sucked for 2 years then good.
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Gotcha... I did some research and I really don't think people should compare Frank to the older guys who were busts... Plenty of guys don't excel as freshman and get picked as old juniors or seniors. Jimmy butler, Klay Thompson, taj Gibson, just off the top if my head. Frank could have come out last year and been a mid first rounder. The comparison to Trey is also dumb. Trey is short and unathletic. Frank has size and is an elite shooter and passer. Trey wasn't really elite at anything... He was good at a lot of stuff.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Again... When the main argument against a player starts with their age and not their skill, size, athleticism not sure that you've done enough homework.

Frank also led two... Two great final four runs. You guys can sleep on Frank all u want but his teams won and a lot if it was because of him.
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Tyler Hansbrough also had an amazing college career. Why does this matter? It just does not.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Gotcha... I did some research and I really don't think people should compare Frank to the older guys who were busts... Plenty of guys don't excel as freshman and get picked as old juniors or seniors. Jimmy butler, Klay Thompson, taj Gibson, just off the top if my head. Frank could have come out last year and been a mid first rounder. The comparison to Trey is also dumb. Trey is short and unathletic. Frank has size and is an elite shooter and passer. Trey wasn't really elite at anything... He was good at a lot of stuff.
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Tyler is considered one the greatest college basketball players of all time. Why does this matter? It does not.
 
There a plenty of guys that have 2 of the 3 main attributes to drafting a guy mid lottery. Upside, Shooting, Athleticism. Frank has one.
 
Doublea said:
When you draft kaminsky your looking at a good back up for your team that can come in and produce from the get go. You aren't getting potential. You might look back on the draft and feel stupid because someone like Turner turned out really good, but you were also likely not drafting a bust.

I like kaminsky because he'll help us next year heading towards the playoffs and filling a need.
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My issue with him is that I dont think he has a chance in hell to defend. This board be screaming in no time. Ask Chicago how Mcbuckets worked out for them.
 
DL made a lot of the case against drafting Frank already. Klay led the PAC 10 in scoring his sophomore year and Steph led Davidson on a huge tourney run his soph year. On the other hand, you have Jimmer, Evan Turner, Adam Morrison, Wesley Johnson who blew up late. You can counter Lockes point all you want but the guy has a point.
 
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Can you guys think of any wing players who couldnt shoot in college and went on to be a decent shooter in the league? I really like RHJ but i worry about dat shot!
 
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