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Following potential 2015 draftees

spycam1 said:
He even helped Korver to expand his game a bit.
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Exactly. I think we should go for a guy with a lot of potential upside, high reward, high risk type of guy.

A nice little tidbit for Looney is he lead the Pac-12 in offensive rebounds this year.
 
spycam1 said:
Analytics are far from everything, but the fact that the average of all six of those major advanced analytic models rank Looney as the 5th best prospect suggests that there's at least a possibility (probably a strong one) that he's being overlooked; he could be a steal and should be among the main crop of prospects we consider at #12.
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What position does looney play. What's his height and weight
 
fishonjazz said:
What position does looney play. What's his height and weight
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Tweener.

6'8"

Good not great athlete. Good wingspan. Very good rebounder. Not very strong and doesn't have much of a post game.

Dunno why anyone on the Jazz would draft him. He gives us nothing that Book doesn't already give us.

At 12 you go with either Frank, who'll never shrink and will always be able to stretch defenses or Booker and hope he turns into a Kyle Korver/Klay Thompson like bomber from 3.

Looney just makes zero sense to me. He gives us nothing that Evans or Book don't already give us.
 
fishonjazz said:
What position does looney play. What's his height and weight
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6'9

7'3.5 wingspan (only half an inch shorter than Favors and Dwight)

222 lbs

His height/length obviously screams PF, but he's got the basis of SF skills (including the lateral quickness to guard SFs). He actually played on the perimeter much more than down low in high school. He's more of a face up player than back to he basket guy. In other words, he's potentially very versatile for someone his size.
 
spycam1 said:
6'9

7'3.5 wingspan (only half an inch shorter than Favors and Dwight)

222 lbs

His height/length obviously screams PF, but he's got the basis of SF skills (including the lateral quickness to guard SFs). He actually played on the perimeter much more than down low in high school. He's more of a face up player than back to he basket guy. In other words, he's potentially very versatile for someone his size.
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Terrance jonesish?
 
Draft Express has Looney going at #19.

IMO, that's about right. He'd be worth taking in the late 1st round. Not in the lottery. In the lottery go with someone who either has size, sick athleticism, or devastating shooting ability.

At 12 I think the Jazz will have a shot at either Booker or Kaminsky. Both would either significantly upgrade our size or shooting.

Looney doesn't improve us at all. I don't understand the fan fare behind Terrence Jones/Paul Millsap lite when we already have The Book.
 
The Thriller said:
Tweener.

6'8"

Good not great athlete. Good wingspan. Very good rebounder. Not very strong and doesn't have much of a post game.

Dunno why anyone on the Jazz would draft him. He gives us nothing that Book doesn't already give us.

At 12 you go with either Frank, who'll never shrink and will always be able to stretch defenses or Booker and hope he turns into a Kyle Korver/Klay Thompson like bomber from 3.

Looney just makes zero sense to me. He gives us nothing that Evans or Book don't already give us.
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I think basketball is becoming more and more position-less. The Warriors win with Green as their center and Barnes as their power forward.
 
stitches said:
His usage in UCLA was suspect. Whenever I was watching them, I was constantly getting frustrated by how little he was touching the ball and how their ball-hogging guards were chucking shot after shot. It is very possible that his performance might have been understated because of the system and the way he was used and he might explode in the right situation in the league. I wouldn't mind drafting him at 12 at all... he'd need time offensively though.
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I wonder what was your stance on Noah Vonleh last year?
 
White Chocolate said:
I think basketball is becoming more and more position-less. The Warriors win with Green as their center and Barnes as their power forward.
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When you have the best shooter of all time teamed up with one of the best shooters in the NBA it really doesn't matter about position. But who has that kind of luxury? Just look at Atlanta. They've tried to go position less team ball and it ain't working. The Suns tried it in the 2000s too.

The difference is as good as Teaque and co have been, they're nothing compared to the Splash Bros. As good as Nash was, he wasn't the freak that Curry is. But let's see if GS can maintain this. They still haven't won anything yet.

I think it goes in cycles. Right now we are in a different era. But I wouldn't be surprised to see big men and the defined positions make a come back soon. Just look at how devastating Rudy was this past year. If he develops a post game? If Favors can continue to be solid? The Jazz will be a WC challenger for years to come.
 
Anyone think this Warriors team could beat out any of the Spurs championship teams? How about any of the Kobe Shaq lakers teams?

I think positions still matter. The difference is, Curry is a freak and having an all time great season. While GS is uber loaded and the rest of the league has few big men to speak of.

Perhaps this draft gives the NBA the bigs it needs to restore balance?

IMO, having a dominant big (and defined roles) still gives you the best chance of winning. It's like having a solid defense and run offense in football. It's boring but sure is effective.
 
Can we let GSW win ONE championship before we start discussing where they fit amongst the greatest teams of the last 20 years? please?
 
If looney is successful it is as a stretch, face up, power forward who can switch out in screens and cause issues defensively. When I watched him I was never impressed. People say he's great in practice... I'm a little skeptical. I would prefer him to lyles and Portis. I'd take kaminsky before looney but my thoughts are already known on Frank.
 
If Looney were, like, 10% more mobile (laterally), then he'd be on my short list. But I'm suspicious about whether he can play at SF... if he could, though, he'd be much more interesting.
 
BTP said:
I wonder what was your stance on Noah Vonleh last year?
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They have some very similar traits coming out of college indeed. I was very high on him last year. I thought he was a steal for the Hornets at 9. I think I even had us picking him in one of my mocks before the draft(which right now seem ridiculous) :o I still think he's a good prospect. I wonder what the horncats are going to do with him.

Vonleh was more strictly a 4 and had low bbiq. I think he was a monster defensively though and thought he can stretch the floor for us(both were things we needed a lot at the time). He was a bit of a black hole on offense and didn't have a good feel for the game. I think Looney has much better feel and bball IQ. He's much skinnier than Vonleh coming out of college though. I am still not sure what position he plays in the NBA. To me he looks like a 4 much more than a 3, but he does have the quickness and length to get switched on smaller players(something our defensive system will probably rely on a lot in the future). His offensive skill level is not very high right now though.
 
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