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Carbon13 said:
Curry defends well. Harden is better than people realize, particularly this last year and Nowitzki played d at his peak.
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Sure. Keep telling yourself that.
 
Carbon13 said:
Curry defends well. Harden is better than people realize, particularly this last year and Nowitzki played d at his peak.
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What would make russell not be able to defend as well as harden or curry?
 
You don't have to be a great defender to be a top 10 player.

But your team better be able to play defense. Or you aren't going to win ****!

Harden could win a title with the right supporting cast. There is no doubt about that.

Curry is going to win a title because he has Bogut and Draymond to help play some defense. Without those two pieces I seriously doubt they'd win the championship.

Curry is a pretty good defender himself though. He's just not thought of being one. He was in the top 5 in steals. Even number 1 for a while. He plays hard and has a great motor.
 
Carbon13 said:
He shot well on the season and has a quick release. 20 shots is not that big a sample size. Was he warming up? Was it after a fatiguing drill? Id like to see him shoot 200 shots then figure it out from there. That said, i agree. His shot is ugly and 8/20 is not very good. You cant argue with 40+% on the season tho.
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That's how he shoots it all the time. I literally lol'd that Cy called it unorthodox. There is a reason coaches teach guys not shoot it that way... It's not effective. He has way to much arms and flings the ball. Probably works for 18ish footers alright though because it went in in college. From NBA 3 point range it's too much of a fling to be consistent. His right foot goes too far in front of his left foot... Not a major issue form wise but he'll have to start his motion 6 inches behind the line or so to keep his toes off the line.

It's not a quick release he loads it up and slings it... It's a bit slow. He's going to struggle to be consistent with that form.

That said there is a lot to like about him. If we were drafting 17-19 I'd be excited to have him.
 
fishonjazz said:
Harden can't defend. He is a top ten player.
Curry doesn't play much D. He is the league mvp.

Dirk nowitzki was not known for his defensive skills. I think he was top ten in his prime.
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I disagree with this as well.

Curry is a good defender. Harden can be when he wants to. Dirk could play some decent D in the post as well. He wasnt a top defender, but played good enough D
 
Then there are guys like Kawhi that defend so well and affect the game in so many ways their above average offense catapults them into the top 5.
 
fishonjazz said:
What would make russell not be able to defend as well as harden or curry?
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I think he could be just as good as a defender as those guys


I think when it comes to defense, the most important parts are a rim protector and team defense. If you combine those two, you can get good results. You don't really need an all NBA defensive player at every position.

But you certainly can't have two bad defenders in the post. Regardless if you have Curry or Lebron. Both those players need their post defenders to succeed.
 
sgjazzfan said:
Jazz need to have a deal already in place with Charlotte before the draft. #12, GS 2017, lottery protected future first, Burke if needed for #9. Jazz draft Stanley Johnson, then Charlotte gets Devin Booker. Both will likely be available at the respective draft pick and would be great fits for each team. It just makes way too much sense to actually happen though...
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Hell no. While ur at it give them my dog and future first born while ur at it!
 
Cy said:
lol

One of the best mid-range shooting PF's in college basketball.

If it goes in, it goes in.
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Doesn't mean it will go in from three though.
 
Hack said:
His misses weren't even close either. His makes were probably just luck. He doesn't look like a good shooter at all.
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Except the fact he was one of the better mid-range shooters in college basketball as a #1 option and hit 46% of his 3pt attempts?
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Jokes on u. My first born hasn't been born yet


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Genes say your first born is junior college material..

Sorry about the mean things I said about your dog... He's just a ball chaser on defense... No discipline.
 
White Chocolate said:
Cy.. Why don't you just cut your losses on Portis. Stop before you get too far behind.

I want no part in that ugly *** shot. I literally lol'd when I watched the video.
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Crazy that a guy who just started shooting college 3's on a very limited basis isn't a good NBA 3pt shooter in what is probably his 1st month practicing 3's from that range. Just crazy.

He has suceeded at the mid-range game in a big way. He is a good shooter, I have no doubt in my mind about that. It's crazy how close minded some people here are.
 
fishonjazz said:
What would make russell not be able to defend as well as harden or curry?
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I didnt say he couldnt. He may be able to. I think Russell will be a very good player. But before we talk about top ten stuff there are a lot of steps he will have to take. Im going keep an eye on his defense.
 
Catchall said:
Portis' 3-pt shooting isn't there right now. He'll have to rebuild his shooting form. It will be a project. He's got good touch, but will need his shot re-built. It could be a deal breaker with the Jazz if they want someone with 3-pt range this year.

FWIW, I don't think Trevor Booker shooting 3s is pretty either.
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Why does he need his shot rebuilt? He just got done shooting it very well from mid-range. His shot is fine. Why are people crying about a shot form that has worked for him very well? I don't get it.
 
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