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NUMBERICA said:
The answer is getting rid of Burke and the position of traditional (backup) PG altogether and distribute the minutes/opportunities for better players/prospects. The Jazz are loaded with ballhandlers that are actually good, why make your life harder just to subscribe to conventional and flawed logic?
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This.

I count the number of players that can stay in front of Burks as 0 let alone backup pg's. I see no reason why he can't play the left over PG mins (~18) and still be a part of the SG rotation. Start Burks @ the 2, first sub Hood for Exum. No need for Burke. Trade him. Eventually replace him with a 3&D guy.
 
Here Is Luwawu's highlights from the other night. Needs to put on a lot of weight, and is older than I thought at 20 (One and a half years older than Booker).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iLFBSrkrYU
 
♪alt13 said:
I count the number of players that can stay in front of Burks as 0
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This.
Easily his biggest strength. I think it gets overlooked a bit too
 
fishonjazz said:
This.
Easily his biggest strength. I think it gets overlooked a bit too
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Burks is getting underrated here because we haven't seen him since December. I wish he had been able to play the whole season. All of our guys improved as the season went on.
 
Cy said:
If 0 players could stay in front of him he should be averaging 20 points.
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Getting by players is not all it takes to score 20 per. I thought you would know that.

You also have to have the offense focused around you (and maybe ball hog a bit) and get lots and lots of minutes. And make the shots once you get by your defender.
 
♪alt13 said:
This.

I count the number of players that can stay in front of Burks as 0 let alone backup pg's. I see no reason why he can't play the left over PG mins (~18) and still be a part of the SG rotation. Start Burks @ the 2, first sub Hood for Exum. No need for Burke. Trade him. Eventually replace him with a 3&D guy.
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I love Burks, but I'd like to try Hood in the starting role first and have Alec fill Trey's role exactly as Snyder has it carved out right now. I think he'd be amazing. IMO, he's a better athlete, better shooter, can actually slash and get to the rim, has a higher defensive ceiling and still has the scorer's mentality that Trey brings to the bench unit. Plus, it lets him work his way back into the rotation slowly without jeopardizing team chemistry.

Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Hood and Exum to start. . .

. . . with Tomic (hopefully), Booker, Jingles, Burks and the 2012 lottery pick rounding out the bench.
 
Cy said:
If 0 players could stay in front of him he should be averaging 20 points. This is not the case.
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He needs to work on his tunnel vision once he gets by his man. The way he collapses the D he should be getting a few more assists. Even if he doesn't I still take Burks and 3 ast over Burke at backup PG.
 
♪alt13 said:
He needs to work on his tunnel vision once he gets by his man. The way he collapses the D he should be getting a few more assists. Even if he doesn't I still take Burks and 3 ast over Burke at backup PG.
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I thought he was doing pretty well with his passing this season, even averaged 3 assists, but yeah with Burks ability to break the defense down improving his passing should be focused on.
 
fishonjazz said:
Getting by players is not all it takes to score 20 per. I thought you would know that.

You also have to have the offense focused around you (and maybe ball hog a bit) and get lots and lots of minutes. And make the shots once you get by your defender.
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So no one can stay in front of him and his greatest skill is drawing contact and he can't score 20 ppg?

The reason: because people can stay in front of him.
 
Doublea said:
I thought he was doing pretty well with his passing this season, even averaged 3 assists, but yeah with Burks ability to break the defense down improving his passing should be focused on.
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I bet Quin takes care of that. Watch Burks have a breakout year depending on what role they carve out for him.
 
Cy said:
So no one can stay in front of him and his greatest skill is drawing contact and he can't score 20 ppg?

The reason: because people can stay in front of him.
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The reason is because once he gets by his man he barrels into a wall of bigs. IIRC his assists last year didn't come as a result of drive and kicks or drop offs. I think most of his assists were from swinging the ball from outside the arc(No data but that is what I remember).

However, just before he went out for surgery I recall him hitting someone in the corner for an open 3(missed) off one of his drives. That got me excited. I think it is something he and Quin were already working on last season.
 
♪alt13 said:
The reason is because once he gets by his man he barrels into a wall of bigs. IIRC his assists last year didn't come as a result of drive and kicks or drop offs. I think most of his assists were from swinging the ball from outside the arc(No data but that is what I remember).

However, just before he went out for surgery I recall him hitting someone in the corner for an open 3(missed) off one of his drives. That got me excited. I think it is something he and Quin were already working on last season.
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I mean, don't get me wrong, people do have some trouble staying in front of him, but he isn't Russell Westbrook with his blow by capability. People can and do stay in front of him.
 
Cy said:
So no one can stay in front of him and his greatest skill is drawing contact and he can't score 20 ppg?

The reason: because people can stay in front of him.
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Burks averages 8 fg attempts per game for his career and 3.5 free throw attempts per game in 22.7 minutes a game.

I'm confident that if Burks averages 36 minutes per game and has, let's say 18 field goal attempts per game, that he would average 20 pts per game.

Getting past his defender is not what is preventing him from averaging 20 points per game.


Then again, I'm not even sure why you brought the whole 20 pts thing up.
Ingles could average 20 pts per game if he shoots enough and plays enough minutes.

I watch the jazz play and don't see defenders able to stay in front of Burks. That is what I was commenting on.
 
Cy said:
So no one can stay in front of him and his greatest skill is drawing contact and he can't score 20 ppg?

The reason: because people can stay in front of him.
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Reading this post again it almost seems like you are saying that Burks inability to get to the hoop/paint is what's holding him back. That sounds pretty dumb

Burks has plenty of weaknesses..... Getting by his man is not one of them.
Burks drive game as his main strength.

I thought everyone knew that
 
Tyler: Hi Kevin, I know the general consensus is the that the Hornets need to address shooting with their #9 pick. What is your feeling on 1.) Who they should draft at that spot and 2.) is moving down or trading out a viable option?

Kevin Pelton: I think R.J. Hunter is the best shooting wing who will be available to the Hornets. If Charlotte could move back and still get Hunter, that would be an ideal scenario.


That number again is 801...
 
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