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Thee jazz fan said:
My rule of thumb is u don't trade up for a guy over seas. They are too much of a crap shoot. Porz could easily bust hard
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I don't think Porzingis busts. He's a good athlete, very mobile. He can really shoot. Maybe he's not a great rebounder and gets taken off the dribble by smaller players, but he's at least as good as Mirotic, worst case.
 
stormkoopacv03 said:
For me, if Porzingis is slipping and is there at 8 I'd trade 12 and Hood. You know what they say, go big or go home. Roll the dice like the Jazz did with Exum.
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I don't think he does. . . but let's say Porzingis does fall to 8? The Jazz have more than enough assets to make a move to jump up and get him if they want - without including Hood. The Jazz have 17 picks in the next 4 drafts. Give them #12, Burke (who has more value than fans believe) and a couple of those future picks. That's a good deal to move up 4 spots. If the Jazz decision makers think he'll develop into the kind of player they're hoping for. . . it's worth it to be aggressive.
 
Catchall said:
Well, you'd have to bribe the other team. If they think they can get Hood + Turner, that might make them pass on Hezonja. I don't think a team would pass on him for much less tbh.
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If they pass on future picks for a rebuilding team than you stand pat or trade back. No sense in over paying when you are speculating. No way would I sell Hood to move up 5 spots.
 
I don't think we are willing to give up the assets needed to move up to 6 or 7.

If we move up I think it would be to 9.

#12 + 2017 GSW first rounder + 2018 OKC first rounder for #9.

We then get our choice of Johnson, Turner, Oubre or maybe someone in the top-8 fall like Winslow or WCS.
 
Charlotte wants Devin Booker or R.J. Hunter, they might take Booker at 9, but they are interested in trading down a bit and take Hunter.

I'm pretty sure Hunter will be there at 12.
 
Ellis269 said:
I don't think he does. . . but let's say Porzingis does fall to 8? The Jazz have more than enough assets to make a move to jump up and get him if they want - without including Hood. The Jazz have 17 picks in the next 4 drafts. Give them #12, Burke (who has more value than fans believe) and a couple of those future picks. That's a good deal to move up 4 spots. If the Jazz decision makers think he'll develop into the kind of player they're hoping for. . . it's worth it to be aggressive.
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I mean, if that's what it takes then yeah, let's go for it. We can't be sittin' at the same spot most the time, hoping a great player would magically fall down to us. The Jazz better man up and start making a move (Porz or Hezonja) or whoever to improve this team this year. It's our time to shine next season.
 
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Thee jazz fan said:
Which is why I'm on record saying we shouldn't trade up using players.


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This is definitely the draft trade down in in my opinion. Pick up assets for a draft where it would help more to trade up. In the mean time develop our current talent. I know it's not the sexy move, but let's try to not be the Knicks or Kings


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Thee jazz fan said:
This is definitely the draft trade down in in my opinion. Pick up assets for a draft where it would help more to trade up. In the mean time develop our current talent. I know it's not the sexy move, but let's try to not be the Knicks or Kings


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That will depend on who will fall to us at 12 though.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I'm sorry but I'm not trading Hood for anyone that's not a sure thing. Porz isn't a sure thing. No euro is.
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I'm not trading Hood for anyone in this draft. Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Hood, Burks and Exum are all off the table. Everything else is in play. I'm okay with burning assets right now, because the team still has the opportunity to flip other pieces or take on some bad contracts to gain future assets down the road. DL is aggressive and likes to move pieces on draft day.

The Jazz have 17 picks over the next four years. They can afford to be aggressive. If some combination of #12, Burke, Booker and some future 1st round picks can land a guy like Porzingis or Hezonja. . . then I'm all for it. I've got over a dozen guys that would make me happy at 12. If the Jazz see a superstar in one of them, I'd love to see that guy spend the next 5+ years working with Snyder and Co. to reach that potential.
 
Ellis269 said:
I'm not trading Hood for anyone in this draft. Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Hood, Burks and Exum are all off the table. Everything else is in play. I'm okay with burning assets right now, because the team still has the opportunity to flip other pieces or take on some bad contracts to gain future assets down the road. DL is aggressive and likes to move pieces on draft day.

The Jazz have 17 picks over the next four years. They can afford to be aggressive. If some combination of #12, Burke, Booker and some future 1st round picks can land a guy like Porzingis or Hezonja. . . then I'm all for it. I've got over a dozen guys that would make me happy at 12. If the Jazz see a superstar in one of them, I'd love to see that guy spend the next 5+ years working with Snyder and Co. to reach that potential.
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Agree


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Anyone that wants to trade Hood for anything less than an existing or ascending superstar is ****ing high.
 
Nbadraft.net updated their draft. They wised up and have us taking Turner instead of Dekker. In the 2nd round they have us taking Joseph Young (still) and then Chasson Randle (solid scorer, gets to the line a lot, defensive underachiever).
 
I think you guys are getting desperate for a trade up. If we trade up we will trade up at draft night and we will trade up for a player not for the spot. That is - we will target a specific player, not simply to move up and pick one of a bunch of players. If the specific player we target is not there, we simply won't trade up... I personally would only trade up for Hezonja, Russell and possibly Porzingis and two of those are quite possibly out of reach for anything reasonable I would be willing to trade for them. I don't think it's worth it trading up from 12 to 8-9 for anybody else. Chances are several great players will fall to 12 and we will have our chance to pick whoever we like best. I don't want to trade up to 9 for Johnson when we can have Turner or Oubre or Portis or Kaminsky at 12. To me those players are very close on the board and whoever drops I'd be more than happy to get them. It's just not worth it.
 
stitches said:
I think you guys are getting desperate for a trade up. If we trade up we will trade up at draft night and we will trade up for a player not for the spot. That is - we will target a specific player, not simply to move up and pick one of a bunch of players. If the specific player we target is not there, we simply won't trade up... I personally would only trade up for Hezonja, Russell and possibly Porzingis and two of those are quite possibly out of reach for anything reasonable I would be willing to trade for them. I don't think it's worth it trading up from 12 to 8-9 for anybody else. Chances are several great players will fall to 12 and we will have our chance to pick whoever we like best. I don't want to trade up to 9 for Johnson when we can have Turner or Oubre or Portis or Kaminsky at 12. To me those players are very close on the board and whoever drops I'd be more than happy to get them. It's just not worth it.
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That's where I'm at, although I'd even omit Hezonja and just make Russell and Porzingis as the only two trade up targets.
 
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