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Following potential 2015 draftees

stitches said:
I mean we won't trade up and then think who we should be getting at that spot. If we move we will move in order to pick a specific player. That's why I doubt any trade will happen before draft night...
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I think we all pretty much assume thats how it would work. We don't know the guys they like, but I'm sure 1 or 2 that they do have a good chance at being available at 8-9, and they would be willing to move up for them. We are just speculating on guys we think are worth the risk. I want them to move up because I trust DL, and want him to have his choice of who he gets, not just settle for whats left over.

Say the top 8 are the guys the predicted, and at 9 there are 4 guys they wouldn't mind drafting (think Johnson, Oubre, Turner, Kaminsky). Should they stay pat at 12 and take the one left over, or should they move up and take the 1 they like the most? I want them to get the guy they think will be the best rather than take whats left over. The other option is a guy they really like, but think will be gone top 6-7 (Think Winslow, Porzingas, Hezonja) ends up at 9, they can then move up and get the guy that dropped. 2 very different scenarios, but both worth moving up for imo. I'm not sure who they are targeting, but I want them to get their guy, not just whoever is left over.
 
Catchall said:
I found a few workout vids from Charlotte Hornets.

Oubre...
https://www.nba.com/hornets/video/teams/hornets/2015/06/11/150611KellyOubreHLmov-3619025

Hunter...
https://www.nba.com/hornets/video/teams/hornets/2015/06/08/150608RJHuntermov-3616602

Booker...
https://www.nba.com/hornets/video/teams/hornets/2015/06/10/150610DevinBookerHLmov-3618347

Dekker...
https://www.nba.com/hornets/video/teams/hornets/2015/06/10/150610SamDekkerHLmov-3618323
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Notice how Booker has picture perfect form on his jumper, while Dekker and Oubre drift forward after jumping on there 3 point shots. A minor nuance that probably could be worked out over time.
 
If he drops to 8 it will be really hard for Detroit to pass on him since his agent is now in their front office and they have a need at SF...
 
I dont see Oubre sliding to 12. He is off the board by then, draft stock is going up and based on what he did in college and how much potential he has, GMs are going to have a hard time passing on him.
 
I'll be surprised if Oubre goes higher than 8, but I think he probably *should* go between 8 and 11 with Turner, Johnson and Kaminsky. The latter two are more likely to drop to 12, imo.

A big question is where teams rank Oubre vis a vis Winslow.
 
Oubre pretty impressive in those CHA workout vids. Hits 4-5 threes in a row a couple of times.



Looney seems to be to be going at a slow-motion pace. Am I seeing that right?
 
Based off of that workout vid, I don't think Oubre slides pass CHA at #9. I can see Jordan salivating at the chance of working with him. He just seems to be able to do everything effortlessly.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Notice how Booker has picture perfect form on his jumper, while Dekker and Oubre drift forward after jumping on there 3 point shots. A minor nuance that probably could be worked out over time.
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Booker looked good in that workout, actually. He had a pretty decent handle and enough quickness to get past the scrubby guys guarding him.
 
White Chocolate said:
I would trade 12 for 16 and 28. There is just so much value from 10-20 in this draft. Plus DL has hit with two guys in the twenties (Gobert, Hood).
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If we trade back I'd rather get a future first. It would be nice to have multiple firsts/a lotto pick when we start making the playoffs. A lack of assets to refine the roster is what many teams lack when they finally crack the top half of the playoff seeding. We gotta get there but we don't want to go broke doing it.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Notice how Booker has picture perfect form on his jumper, while Dekker and Oubre drift forward after jumping on there 3 point shots. A minor nuance that probably could be worked out over time.
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If I'm not mistaken drifting forward slightly after making your jump shot is considered good form. You're not supposed to jump straight down.
 
ONE LOVE said:
If I'm not mistaken drifting forward slightly after making your jump shot is considered good form. You're not supposed to jump straight down.
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Correct. those jumping straight up/down are depending more on knee flexion than whats necessary.




Kelly's shooting sure looks feathery in that Charlotte workout vid... As I noted with Hood last year, Oubre has a good chance at being one of the better lefty shooters in the league.




There's some interesting discrepancies between the DX top 100 list and their mock, I can't ever recall seeing such differences. A few things that stick out are;

- Kaminsky 9th and Porzingis 10th

- Rondae Hollis-Jefferson 13th and Kelly Oubre 16th

- Jonathan Holmes 24th

- Richaun Holmes 34th and Jarell Martin 39th

- Rashad Vaughn 38th and Terry Rozier 47th
 
@TommyBeer 19h19 hours ago
Woj, on WFAN radio w/ @JoeandEvan, says: “So many teams want to trade up for Porzingis, that it could change the comple[x]ion of this draft…"



"With the 4th pick in the 2015 NBA Draft, The Utah Jazz select - Kristaps Porzingis from Latvia"


W447
 
ONE LOVE said:
If I'm not mistaken drifting forward slightly after making your jump shot is considered good form. You're not supposed to jump straight down.
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Not sure. Years ago I heard someone talk about how Korver always lands where he jumped from, so I started doing it and felt like it helped my shot a lot.
 
Top 12? In some order. . .

Towns, Okafor, Russell, Porzingis, WCS, Hezonja, Winslow, Mudiay, Johnson, Turner, Oubre and Kaminsky?

Jazz should be delighted that the rise of Oubre and Turner makes this draft at least 12 solid. IMO, every team in the lottery has a chance to get a really, really good player. Some will work out, and others won't. . . but I'm pretty happy with where the Jazz are sitting. Especially if they decide to cash in some of those assets and make a run for a guy they love.
 
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