I have about 3 more people before i get to Lyles... I'm really not very high on him... I think I'd pick Portis, Hunter and RHJ before I pick Lyles. Maybe even Vaughn.
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I have about 3 more people before i get to Lyles... I'm really not very high on him... I think I'd pick Portis, Hunter and RHJ before I pick Lyles. Maybe even Vaughn.
Jazz4ever
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Yeah but his lateral movement is amazing for 6'9" guy. A 10.71 agility score easily beat everyone 6'9" and above this year and last year (including Aaron Gordon). He should be able to guard SGs, SFs, and some PFs.
stormkoopacv03
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Man, if the Jazz go with Trey Lyles, I will not be happy one bit. He's at the very back of the list and don't get how Locke thinks he's a very good player.
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He has such a sparkling personality though.... kidding I almost fell asleep during his interview. Maybe he's the Gordon Hayward of this draft... I didn't get that one at the time either.
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Not sure what you're looking at, but Burks standing reach was actually measured higher at the combine than Oubre.
Game6Conley
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Lyles has a Greg Monroe type of skillset but with a more dangerous face-up game. If he can continue to refine his handle, shooting and athleticism, he will prove to be well worth a lottery pick.
His strengths offensively are more nuanced than many of the prospects being discussed. he interprets the defense well, knows when to pick his spots, and shows an adept touch around the rim. It's understated just how advanced skill-wise he is for a 19 year old, and it's certainly not out of the realm of possibilities that he develops consistent NBA 3pt range.
Obviously his interviews aren't the most charismatic, he's basketball player though - I'm sure PKM can speak on his personality better than I. Lyles seems to carry himself in an understated, level-headed, low-key type of way. It sort of looked like he was the guy reminding Towns not to get too amped sometimes on the bench during blowouts, the type to crack a smile/cut the mood next to a player barking at the refs.
His strengths offensively are more nuanced than many of the prospects being discussed. he interprets the defense well, knows when to pick his spots, and shows an adept touch around the rim. It's understated just how advanced skill-wise he is for a 19 year old, and it's certainly not out of the realm of possibilities that he develops consistent NBA 3pt range.
Obviously his interviews aren't the most charismatic, he's basketball player though - I'm sure PKM can speak on his personality better than I. Lyles seems to carry himself in an understated, level-headed, low-key type of way. It sort of looked like he was the guy reminding Towns not to get too amped sometimes on the bench during blowouts, the type to crack a smile/cut the mood next to a player barking at the refs.
Carbon13
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Not to mention, where it matters most. *two eyebrow raises and a grin*
I think Turner could go 8 - 13. That seems like his range.
Wow.. Been some really good posts today.
As far as this goes, I was just putting out my order for the seven players Ford says we are looking at for #12.
As far as this goes, I was just putting out my order for the seven players Ford says we are looking at for #12.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Agree. He has potential as a defender and as an offensive player. I think he can definitely think he'll be a starter in the NBA. Like his size and athletic ability.
Why are people so down on Lyles. I don't get it.
Towns and Turner almost have identical stats.
Turner is a better three-point shooter.
Towns is a better low-post scorer.
Both are pretty good defenders, both are 7'0.
The difference is one runs funny and played for Texas and the other played for Kentucky.
If Turner played for Kentucky, he would be in consideration to go #1.
Turner is a better three-point shooter.
Towns is a better low-post scorer.
Both are pretty good defenders, both are 7'0.
The difference is one runs funny and played for Texas and the other played for Kentucky.
If Turner played for Kentucky, he would be in consideration to go #1.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Here's the mother of all head scratchers?? How would he be considered for the top pick if he played for KU??
Lololol, so you're telling me if Towns played for Texas and put up the same stats and didn't make the tourney that he would still go #1?
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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U do realize no one at KU played heavy mins due to having so many good players right. Why wasn't Jimmer considered the no 1 pick in his draft? Not ur best moment wc.
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He's good, not great at his strong points(maybe with exception of passing) and he's produced horribly at some of the things that are supposed to be strong points - shooting. Not great athlete, not explosive, not very quick laterally. People are afraid to say it but I will say it - even though he has the size of a PF(6'10''), defensively he's a tweener. I don't know if he'd be able to guard the big PFs in the league. He reminds me of Boozer defensively. Offensively - he plays short in the lane due to him not being explosive and not having elite length, he has real trouble finishing against lengthy opponents. Unless he starts making those perimeter shots, I have trouble seeing how he'd be able to stay on the court.
What PGAB described as his offensive game is a little bigger Joe Ingles, with the exception that Ingles actually hits his 3p with some regularity and has good defensive instincts and awareness unlike Lyles.
Don't get me wrong, he's a smart player, who reads the game well in offense and makes the right passes, and if he develops his jump shot to a point where it's actually a strength, he will probably be a good rotational big in the league, but I just don't like the ceiling and I don't like the floor and how easy it would be for him to stay at the floor.
davidbenoit
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I don't agree that he'd go 1 but I think he'd be a lock for top 8.
Did anyone see the video of his Las Vegas workout? I was really impressed with his speed and power. It looks like he's put on a little weight since Texas.
Because he was senior, played for BYU, and played in a bad conference.