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I'll help you out SJF. So far, his weight hasn't hindered his perimeter defense at all. It does however give him the ability to play some defense down low due to good lower body strength and girth. The only problem is that he's relied on it to play bully ball on offense, which just isn't going to work in the NBA.

I see his size as more of a positive than a negative. I mean, the dude has like 7% body fat. He's not fat, he's just built like a rock.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
No, find a guy as short and as heavy - could be shorter or heavier - who has been successful in the NBA. The point is, it is really hard to be a good NBA player when you are that short and that heavy - it's just a fact. It is a fact that guys with those measurements are incredibly rare success stories in the NBA.
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LBJ is 6-9 270 and can guard all 5 positions. I know he doesn't fit under ur argument of height, but the point is it depends on how u carry that weight. I'm not a fan of Johnson but his weight is not the problem it's an advantage
seattlejazzfan said:
Hey, it's clear you feel the Jazz don't need to acquire talent like Hood or Gobert at this point. Seems a little strange that you wouldn't want to add players of that caliber, but to each his own. It's okay.
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Don't think u can just count on finding a Gobert that late in every draft. We were extremely lucky


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Gobert was projected as a lottery pick for nearly a year then fell off for some reason ( I think injuries). Grabbing a late round pick for him makes sense, especially when he fit a major hole in our roster.


There is no one like that in this draft and we have no major holes. We have a lot of young guaranteed contracts we need to develop and a few partially guaranteed I think the Jazz like more than the lack of talent this draft has to other in the late first/early 2nd round.
 
Howard said:
I'll help you out SJF. So far, his weight hasn't hindered his perimeter defense at all. It does however give him the ability to play some defense down low due to good lower body strength and girth. The only problem is that he's relied on it to play bully ball on offense, which just isn't going to work in the NBA.

I see his size as more of a positive than a negative. I mean, the dude has like 7% body fat. He's not fat, he's just built like a rock.
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It didn't hinder his defense in a watered down NCAA. Get back to me when he's trying to defend NBA wings.
 
zyzz said:
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OKC has shopped Perry Jones, Jeremy Lamb and Steve Novak the last few days, per league sources. Financially motivated, but looking for pick.

I feel like I'm one of the only people left one Perry Jones III Island...and I haven't given up on Lamb yet. They both have so much talent, but it seems like it come down to lack of effort with them. Wonder if a couple second rounders would get us PJ3. Funny how Lamb was one of the assets they got in the Harden trade, and now they're gonna pay Kanter 15mil while they let Harden walk.
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I'm still here on PJ3 Island. But I keep a low profile. I would love to get PJ3 for one or both of our second rounders.
 
Eminence said:
Several alright comparisons have been given physically. Ron Artest being the closest one in my opinion. Basically same height/weight, with Artest having about 2 inches in wingspan.
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Larry Johnson is another - a bit longer, but again, a decent comparison. I didn't say it was impossible, just that it's extremely rare. If you like Stanley enough to take that risk, fine - just don't be surprised if he's outside the top 10.
 
BENTLEY said:
I'm still here on PJ3 Island. But I keep a low profile. I would love to get PJ3 for one or both of our second rounders.
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Not a fan of any of those dudes as our 4th wing. I still think it's best to either keep Ingles/Sap or going out and signing a solid vet 4th wing (or draft a lottery level talented one like Dekker/Oubre/Johnson) as our 4th.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Larry Johnson is another - a bit longer, but again, a decent comparison. I didn't say it was impossible, just that it's extremely rare. If you like Stanley enough to take that risk, fine - just don't be surprised if he's outside the top 10.
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Who has failed?

It's a rare body size. Doesn't mean it has a lower success rate than the other more typical body sizes.

I mean, you know how many 6'7 225 lb wings have failed in the NBA? A lot.
 
Chad Ford's 'Grade A' Mock for Jazz...


Needs: backup PF, C, SG

Round 1 (12) Kevon Looney, F, Fr. UCLA
Round 2 (42) Rakeem Christmas, F/C, Sr., Syracuse
Round 2 (54) Larry Nance Jr., F, Sr., Wyoming

Analysis: The Jazz are one of the few teams in the lottery without any glaring needs. Their starting five of the future is pretty set: Dante Exum at point guard, Alec Burks at shooting guard, Gordon Hayward at small forward, Derrick Favors at power forward and Rudy Gobert at center. That starting five has a chance to be awesome someday, and I don't think anyone in Utah is going to mess with it. Burks is the biggest question mark of the group, but given his recent contract extension, they're going to try to make it work. And even if it doesn't, the way Rodney Hood played toward the end of the season gives them hope that his replacement might already be on their roster.

That frees them to take the best player available, and I think that's Looney. If there is a third tier in this draft, it ends around No. 12 and Looney is the last guy in it. He has the talent of a top-five pick, but it's still unclear where his position will be in the pros, and he's seen as a longer-term project than most. Utah has the flexibility to be able to wait on him. Someday he could be backing up both Favors and Hayward. He's one of the most versatile players in the draft and a steal at No. 12. Christmas doesn't have a huge amount of upside, but he's was super productive his senior year, can play the 4 and the 5 and should provide some rebounding and shot blocking off the bench.
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Cy said:
It's a lot of luck.
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No doubt, but DL has earned my trust to the extent I think a trade such as the one mentioned above would be worth it - especially if they could nab Grant at 16 in the process - a guy I'd consider at 12 depending on who is available.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
No doubt, but DL has earned my trust to the extent I think a trade such as the one mentioned above would be worth it - especially if they could nab Grant at 16 in the process - a guy I'd consider at 12 depending on who is available.
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I mean, if it happens, I will also trust that he made the best choice. I just highly doubt that is going to happen and that he is feeling that way.

Of course, a lot of it depends on who drops.

Hood had to drop for us to get him, same with Gobert. It's not all DL working "magic", a lot of it's luck in what the other teams don't do.

If we really liked Gobert, why didn't we trade up to 20 to nab him? Was it worth the risk of waiting 7 picks before taking him? Or were we just willing to part with ownership money for the pick and not actual assets?
 
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