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Rumor: Jazz want to - and can - acquire Milsap. May trade Favors in draft day deal.

gregbroncs said:
If Porzingas flops and Millsap goes back to Atlanta then you have just flat out ****ed up your franchise for 10 years. You make this trade and you potentially piss off Hayward and Gobert. You are rebuilding all over again. Congratulations you are the Clippers of the 80's and 90's. You downgrade PF, you get a bust pick, and you lose the other 2 players who really matter on this team. Not in any way worth that risk.
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OK and if Porzingis is Dirk with the ability to protect the rim. Having to mobile 7footer that can defend and one that's automatic from behind the 3pt line. This trade wouldn't be with out risk. My point is the reward may be worth the risk if you're DL.
 
Flc said:
No - but it has no relevance to the discussion over whether A) Jody's source is accurate, B) whether he's sourced it twice with two credible individuals to be able to report it (journalistic ethics.)

For what it's worth, this Millsap rumor has been going on for weeks now. I believe it was initially reported by Andy Larsen who had heard it from a source.

Also Boobs - I really couldn't care less about reputation, but giving me a neg for calling out the fact that there's absolutely no reason to be attacking a beat reporter's struggles with weight instead of the credibility of his sources is totally nuts.
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Oh no. I didn't report it at all. I reported the opposite of that.

My article from today, for example: Ignore them. The Jazz love Favors and his extremely team-friendly contract, and want to continue the on-court chemistry displayed at the end of last season, when the team was on a 50-win pace. Additionally, they know that even if Favors were off the roster, Millsap wouldn't be likely to sign in Utah: after all, why would Millsap leave contending Atlanta, who will pay great amounts of money to keep him, to go to Utah, where Millsap's already been? Yes, Utah will make the call on Day 1 of the NBA's free agency to Millsap's representation to register their interest, but they certainly wouldn't make a trade involving Favors for Millsap's sake.
 
da ThRONe said:
OK and if Porzingis is Dirk with the ability to protect the rim. Having to mobile 7footer that can defend and one that's automatic from behind the 3pt line. This trade wouldn't be with out risk. My point is the reward may be worth the risk if you're DL.
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Chance of that happening? Definitely not in the Jazz favor. So you take a good team and go all in with a two of a kind hoping you beat the rest of the table. If it pays off, great. If its NBA 2K great go for it. You can always adjust the rating later. If its real life and you own a team you dont take that kind of risk. If he busts, which is more likely than being a star or even being a starter in this league, then this team is gone. You cant have a losing team in this market that long. This team would lose so much money. Besides the ownership DL is out of a job if he messes up this trade and probably does not get a chance at GM again taking that big of a risk and messing it up.
 
andylarsen said:
Oh no. I didn't report it at all. I reported the opposite of that.

My article from today, for example: Ignore them. The Jazz love Favors and his extremely team-friendly contract, and want to continue the on-court chemistry displayed at the end of last season, when the team was on a 50-win pace. Additionally, they know that even if Favors were off the roster, Millsap wouldn't be likely to sign in Utah: after all, why would Millsap leave contending Atlanta, who will pay great amounts of money to keep him, to go to Utah, where Millsap's already been? Yes, Utah will make the call on Day 1 of the NBA's free agency to Millsap's representation to register their interest, but they certainly wouldn't make a trade involving Favors for Millsap's sake.
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Yah, it was Checketts that reported it first a couple of weeks ago.
 
Broncster said:
Jazz rumors always pan out.

Pretty sure this is already a done deal since Jazz like to leak stuff to the media and fans and then do it.
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Not saying there are any truths to these rumors but this isn't your daddies Jazz. New FO and new way of doing things. Not nearly as closed off.
 
Flc said:
No - but it has no relevance to the discussion over whether A) Jody's source is accurate, B) whether he's sourced it twice with two credible individuals to be able to report it (journalistic ethics.)

For what it's worth, this Millsap rumor has been going on for weeks now. I believe it was initially reported by Andy Larsen who had heard it from a source.

Also Boobs - I really couldn't care less about reputation, but giving me a neg for calling out the fact that there's absolutely no reason to be attacking a beat reporter's struggles with weight instead of the credibility of his sources is totally nuts.
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I have every right to wonder if Jody is smoking weed and eating too much still. you can't stop my curiosity. Please respect others.
 
Broncster said:
Chance of that happening? Definitely not in the Jazz favor. So you take a good team and go all in with a two of a kind hoping you beat the rest of the table. If it pays off, great. If its NBA 2K great go for it. You can always adjust the rating later. If its real life and you own a team you dont take that kind of risk. If he busts, which is more likely than being a star or even being a starter in this league, then this team is gone. You cant have a losing team in this market that long. This team would lose so much money. Besides the ownership DL is out of a job if he messes up this trade and probably does not get a chance at GM again taking that big of a risk and messing it up.
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You can't be mediocre for long either. I think GM's realize that playing it "safe" it's necessarily the best way to stay employed. With that said I have no idea what the Jazz are doing or if there's anything to these reports. My point is I see the logic in a deal similar to the one I comment on. All the comments are saying how tragic it would be to trade Favors and that may be true. However I could see said deal being a home run.

As far as chances of the best case scenario happening with this trade that depends on how DL's and his scouts fell about Porzingis as a prospect and/or how good they think their chance is to sign Millsap.
 
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da ThRONe said:
You can't be mediocre for long either..
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I guess if you think Jazz are going to be mediocre with Favors and their current lineup maybe you try something.

Personally I think Jazz are on track to be in the playoffs, which is above mediocrity. I also think they have pieces and if players develop like they could Jazz have the makings of a great team with some small adjustments.

I think Favors could well be a stater on a championship team. Especially if Gobert and/or Exum becomes a star. I think Favors and Hayward are both good enough to be a robin on a championship team if we can get our batman out of someone else. Maybe we get 5 2nd tier players below super stars as starters and thats good enough to win it all as well. I am not quite sure that anyone on the Warriors is a super star in this league and they won it all.
 
Broncster said:
I guess if you think Jazz are going to be mediocre with Favors and their current lineup maybe you try something.

Personally I think Jazz are on track to be in the playoffs, which is above mediocrity. I also think they have pieces and if players develop like they could Jazz have the makings of a great team with some small adjustments.

I think Favors could well be a stater on a championship team. Especially if Gobert and/or Exum becomes a star. I think Favors and Hayward are both good enough to be a robin on a championship team if we can get our batman out of someone else. Maybe we get 5 2nd tier players below super stars as starters and thats good enough to win it all as well. I am not quite sure that anyone on the Warriors is a super star in this league and they won it all.
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I think the Jazz if the core makes some reasonable progressions and stay together has the ability to be the early 2000's Pistons. However IMO that requires a lot of things breaking right for the Jazz.
 
what kind of retarded moron looks at a 23 year old long athletic efficient offensively awesome defensively power forward with a very reasonable contract and think "we can do better" ?????????????????
If this happens i will burn every piece of Jazz gear i have
 
DownUnder said:
what kind of retarded moron looks at a 23 year old long athletic efficient offensively awesome defensively power forward with a very reasonable contract and think "we can do better" ?????????????????
If this happens i will burn every piece of Jazz gear i have
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Unless you are telling me Favors is a top 10 or at least the best 4 in the game then of course you can do better.
 
da ThRONe said:
Unless you are telling me Favors is a top 10 or at least the best 4 in the game then of course you can do better.
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if you're incredibly lucky and with another handful of years of development. The odds are overwhelmingly against it even if you pull that trigger. So much to lose not to mention disrupting team chemistry, someone who actually wants to stay in Utah.

Hopefully it's just a smokescreen and the ball hogging chucker gets traded.
 
DownUnder said:
if you're incredibly lucky and with another handful of years of development. The odds are overwhelmingly against it even if you pull that trigger. So much to lose not to mention disrupting team chemistry, someone who actually wants to stay in Utah.

Hopefully it's just a smokescreen and the ball hogging chucker gets traded.
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Chemistry is important, but so is fit. I'm not advocating trading Favors. I just can see the logic behind a deal that brings in a player that has a higher ceiling and offer a better fit.
 
Favors and Gobert front court is better than a Millsap and Gobert one. And by a mile. On offense is about even, but on defense it's no contest. Favors along side Gobert is the future.
 
themanknownassting said:
Favors and Gobert front court is better than a Millsap and Gobert one. And by a mile. On offense is about even, but on defense it's no contest. Favors along side Gobert is the future.
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I think talent for talent yes. However I think the spacing Millsap creates might make him a better fit.
 
da ThRONe said:
I think talent for talent yes. However I think the spacing Millsap creates might make him a better fit.
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I think Favor is a much better mid range jump shooter and that is very important to spacing. Just as much as a 3 point shooting when you have 3 guys in your pg, sg and sf who are spacing around the three point circle. I also think Favors can move that good mid range shot to 3 if the Jazz need him to.
 
And......this was a fail.

Thanks Jody, but I didn't believe your ******** in the first place. No one with a brain did.
 
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