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https://www.yahoo.com/politics/supreme-court-affirms-right-to-gay-marriage-122495807066.html

The Supreme Court has found a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, striking down bans in 14 states and handing a historic victory to the gay rights movement that would have been unthinkable just 10 years ago.

Anthony Kennedy, a conservative justice who has broken with his ideological colleagues to author several decisions expanding rights for LGBT people, again sided with the court’s four liberals to strike down the state bans. The 5-4 majority ruled that preventing same-sex people from marrying violated their constitutional right to due process under the 14th Amendment and that the states were unable to put forth a compelling reason to withhold that right from people.
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Sorry if this already got posted, I just saw it. Supreme Court has ruled. What impact will this realistically have on anything besides gay people being able to get married?
 
LogGrad98 said:
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/supreme-court-affirms-right-to-gay-marriage-122495807066.html



Sorry if this already got posted, I just saw it. Supreme Court has ruled. What impact will this realistically have on anything besides gay people being able to get married?
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Was there anyone here who didn't think this was going to happen? I mean, the writing was on the proverbial wall. I'm glad that in a few decades I can say that I was on the right side of history. Congrats to my gay brothers and sisters on their new ability to ruin their lives.
 
Yeah at least people against gay marriage can take consolation in the fact that only half of them will last, just like straight marriage.
 
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LogGrad98 said:
Yeah at least people against gay marriage can take consolation in the fact that only half of them will last, just like straight marriage.
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Not even. People who are against marriage are also statistically more likely to get divorced than people who support it. Income/Education/other factors.
 
I never really did get this whole topic. I read it is projected to be like fewer than 2% of all marriages performed. The only thing that might concern me is if the next push is to try to force religions to perform and accept gay marriage. I can see that as a bit of a rub. But realistically there is no difference in society to the vast majority of people.
 
JimLes said:
Not even. People who are against marriage are also statistically more likely to get divorced than people who support it. Income/Education/other factors.
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This is interesting. Do you have any source material I can peruse?
 
LogGrad98 said:
I never really did get this whole topic. I read it is projected to be like fewer than 2% of all marriages performed. The only thing that might concern me is if the next push is to try to force religions to perform and accept gay marriage. I can see that as a bit of a rub. But realistically there is no difference in society to the vast majority of people.
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This might concern me too but as long as "your religion" is tax exempt, well, all bets are off. Does that tax implication change your position?
 
the government should get out of the marriage business. they should have never medled in it.
that solution i think would have avoided all this crap and demonstration and civil right stuff.
in israel the government doesnt meddle with marriages. they have cohabitation rights for everyone.
so if you lived with a brother or sister you get same rights as married couples gay couples or college roommates.

thiose rights where granted since 1994. but hey the liebrals hate israel so they wont try and copy something that works
 
VINYLONE said:
This is interesting. Do you have any source material I can peruse?
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Here are some stats on education levels and support for gay marriage from last year. https://www.apnorc.org/projects/Pag...-a-shift-in-americans-attitudes0305-8272.aspx

And here are some stats for divorce rates:

https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/a...by-gender-race-and-educational-attainment.htm

I think some correlation can be made from the overlap of the two facts. Being worse educated makes you statistically more likely to oppose gay marriage and statistically more likely to get divorced.
 
Of course, some of this might be a symptom rather than cause. People with higher education are also much more likely to marry later and life and much more likely to have higher income. I'm sure there are studies looking at those two factors and divorce rates, as well.
 
JimLes said:
Here are some stats on education levels and support for gay marriage from last year. https://www.apnorc.org/projects/Pag...-a-shift-in-americans-attitudes0305-8272.aspx

And here are some stats for divorce rates:

https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/a...by-gender-race-and-educational-attainment.htm

I think some correlation can be made from the overlap of the two facts. Being worse educated makes you statistically more likely to oppose gay marriage and statistically more likely to get divorced.
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or some would argue that now marriage is about love. not about procreating and starting a healthy balanced family unit.
so when people get married for the wrong reason only aka love and not for desire to create a family. the marriages wont last. cus loving someone does not last forever. but loving your offspring usually does.

get what agrumeent i am trying to make. ofcourse most people will disagree
 
intersted to hear colton's sentiments surrounding this-- he was staunchly anti this legislation in recent history (as are many others on this forum, I'm sure).
 
Marriage, as defined by the people of Utah, has been redefined, first by the federal courts and today the outcome of that decision has been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. I am disappointed with the decision by the court to usurp state authority and overrule the voice of the people of Utah as demonstrated by legislation with regard to marriage. I am also very concerned with the overwhelming trend to diminish state autonomy. I believe states should have the right to determine their own laws regarding marriage. Clearly, the majority of the justices disagree and their decision provides finality with respect to the law.
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From Guberner Butthurt's Facebook post. I don't agree, so it's not an issue about of religion, but states rights. They knew they were beat, and didn't have a leg to stand on.. so they made a new leg out of nothing.

Conservatives: Kicking and screaming to the end.
 
And one from the church:

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints acknowledges that following today's ruling by the Supreme Court, same-sex marriages are now legal in the United States. The Court's decision does not alter the Lord's doctrine that marriage is a union between a man and a woman ordained by God. While showing respect for those who think differently, the Church will continue to teach and promote marriage between a man and a woman as a central part of our doctrine and practice."
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While yet the 12th article of faith reads:

We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
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You can sustain something and still disagree with it. For example, I disagree with not being able to get in the HOV lane any time I want, but I "sustain" the law by following it. I sustain my Bishop even though I think he's an elitist douche.
 
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