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I don't think there is anything magical about them. If they are actually tastier I'll eat them. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. If they suck and also cost more then I stay away.
 
On the occasion when I know a certain organic product is better tasting, I'll buy it. But most of the time, I don't see the point. Like a street vendor at 2100S 1300E sells these "local organic" white peaches that are to die for. I buy them every chance I get. But I live next to a Sprouts, and I can't really tell the difference between most of their organic and non-organic food. They sometimes have these tiny organic tomatoes that I love, but most of the time it doesn't make a difference.
 
Maybe I should've specified, do you eat them for health reasons and health reasons alone? Or do you think that's all a bunch of nonsense?
 
Maybe I should've specified, do you eat them for health reasons and health reasons alone? Or do you think that's all a bunch of nonsense?

hard to say how 'safe' chemical pesticides and fertilizers used in agriculture are (along with how accurate methods of testing for them are) when we have the example of DuPont in the other thread, and how they've managed to deceive a nation for decades.
 
hard to say how 'safe' chemical pesticides and fertilizers used in agriculture are (along with how accurate methods of testing for them are) when we have the example of DuPont in the other thread, and how they've managed to deceive a nation for decades.

Organic food farmers are business people too. Only safe option is to stop eating.
 
I'd love to grow a bunch of my own stuff eventually. That's real power right there. It's all about holding nutritional value.
 
I'd love to grow a bunch of my own stuff eventually. That's real power right there. It's all about holding nutritional value.

I hear ya.

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hard to say how 'safe' chemical pesticides and fertilizers used in agriculture are (along with how accurate methods of testing for them are) when we have the example of DuPont in the other thread, and how they've managed to deceive a nation for decades.

The big difference is that teflon is a convenience while food is mandatory. I very much doubt we could feed this many people without pesticides. We should test them for safety but we can't really do without them. I have been growing tomatoes, peppers, strawberries this year. A small pesticide free garden in a vast desert(for insects)of lawns and concrete. It is amazing how many bugs get into it. I could double the number of strawberries I get if I sprayed. I don't, so snails and crickets take about half of them. My peppers haven't been bothered but I have lost maybe a 1/4 of my tomatoes.

I honestly doubt that most of the crap people buy at wholefoods is actually pesticide free. Even if it is there is no way to scale organic up to meet the needs of everyone without eventually having widespread famine. For now pesticides are the lesser of 2 evils.
 
The big difference is that teflon is a convenience while food is mandatory. I very much doubt we could feed this many people without pesticides. We should test them for safety but we can't really do without them. I have been growing tomatoes, peppers, strawberries this year. A small pesticide free garden in a vast desert(for insects)of lawns and concrete. It is amazing how many bugs get into it. I could double the number of strawberries I get if I sprayed. I don't, so snails and crickets take about half of them. My peppers haven't been bothered but I have lost maybe a 1/4 of my tomatoes.

I honestly doubt that most of the crap people buy at wholefoods is actually pesticide free. Even if it is there is no way to scale organic up to meet the needs of everyone without eventually having widespread famine. For now pesticides are the lesser of 2 evils.

I don't know man. Mandatory or not, it is irrational to take the position that if one company used a chemical irresponsibly, we might as well stay away from all chemicals. All modern products involve synthetic chemicals.
 
I don't know man. Mandatory or not, it is irrational to take the position that if one company used a chemical irresponsibly, we might as well stay away from all chemicals. All modern products involve synthetic chemicals.

ummm
1)Pesticides are bad for you.
2) No it's really not. Weighing the potential risks verses the rewards is entirely rational. ie If there is an economically reasonable alternative that we are confident in it's safety it's kind of a no brainer.
 
ummm
1)Pesticides are bad for you.
2) No it's really not. Weighing the potential risks verses the rewards is entirely rational.

Pesticides levels are federally regulated to be within safe limit for human consumption. Additionally, you should always thoroughly wash your produce. The risks are negligible, regardless of the essential nature of food.
 
Pesticides levels are federally regulated to be within safe limit for human consumption. Additionally, you should always thoroughly wash your produce. The risks are negligible, regardless of the essential nature of food.

Bruh, pesticides affect more than the food you get at your grocery store.

Pesticide and herbicide run-off is a major thing polluting watersheds.
 
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