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Andrei Kirilenko and Raja Bell to Houston

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Kevin Martin, Shane Battier, and Houston's $3,000,000 trade exception

I tried this trade on RealGM and ESPN's trade machine. It works on both sites. If the Jazz are serious about improving their team at the deadline for a playoff run, this would be the absolute best trade they could make, IMO. There would be insentive for both teams. First off all, the Jazz NEED to improve their perimeter scoring. Adding a perimeter scorer like Kevin Martin, who is just entering his prime at 28 years old, would be the perfect player to place next to Deron in the backcourt. Our offense would move to elite status with four great scorers (Williams, Martin, Millsap, and Jefferson) in the starting lineup. Also, Shane Battier would be an EXCELLENT veteran presence to bring of the bench whose contract is also expiring. Now that Sloan is gone and Horny has been added as a permanent assistant, I would look for the Jazz to go after perimeter scoring at the trade deadline. With AK's huge expiring contract, the Jazz would be absolute idiots not to do so. This move would also insert Gordon Hayward into the starting lineup at Small Forward. From Houston's prospective, they would be getting a huge expiring contract in AK and the veteran Bell for next to nothing. Bell would go to the Rockets in exchange for their trade exception to make room for both Martin and Battier. New Jazz depth chart:

PG: Deron Williams, Earl Watson, Ronnie Price
SG: Kevin Martin, C.J. Miles
SF: Gordon Hayward (who needs more minutes), Shane Battier
PF: Paul Millsap, Jeremy Evans (who definitely needs more minutes), Mehmet Okur (if he ever gets healthy again)
C: Al Jefferson, Kyrylo Fesenko, Francisco Elson

I really like that depth chart. With Martin (an over 20/game scorer) in the backcourt, D-Will would basically become impossible to guard. If teams put their best backcourt defender on Williams, Martin would expose the other defender's weaknesses. A perimeter shooter/scorer like Martin would make Big Al incredibly effective. Hayward would be the fifth starter, as he would not be expected to carry a lot of the scoring load. He would just be expected to play defense, hustle, get "garbage points", etc. (which is a perfect role for a talented rookie). Battier would give us another veteran presence on the bench, which would solidify it. He also has outside scoring ability.
 
I like Raja but I'd do this trade tonight if it was on the table. Would prefer to keep Raja for defensive/leadership purposes but I could get over it pretty quickly.
 
Are you serious? Why would Houston do that?

For AK's expiring? That's what I was banking on when I read/posted. Plus maybe they think Martin isn't working out quite like they thought? I know he's good but I remember hearing chatter out of Houston saying they'd be willing to trade him in the past. But yeah, I think the biggest caveat for them would be the enormous amount of cash coming off the books with AK, at least that's how I rationalized it.
 
I just read in an ESPN chat the other day that Houston is expected to try to trade Yao's contract and anticipates getting some good players in exchange for it. They're not looking to dump salary for cap space. You have to get a team in fairly desperate financial circumstances to get them to trade you two good players for an expiring contract. Especially when they already have about 30 million coming off the books at the end of the season. Houston is supposedly looking for help. Does trading Martin and Battier for Bell and AK help them? At all? No. We see the most fantastical trade scenarios on this board.
 
Andrei Kirilenko and Raja Bell to Houston

for

Kevin Martin, Shane Battier, and Houston's $3,000,000 trade exception

I tried this trade on RealGM and ESPN's trade machine. It works on both sites. If the Jazz are serious about improving their team at the deadline for a playoff run, this would be the absolute best trade they could make, IMO. There would be insentive for both teams. First off all, the Jazz NEED to improve their perimeter scoring. Adding a perimeter scorer like Kevin Martin, who is just entering his prime at 28 years old, would be the perfect player to place next to Deron in the backcourt. Our offense would move to elite status with four great scorers (Williams, Martin, Millsap, and Jefferson) in the starting lineup. Also, Shane Battier would be an EXCELLENT veteran presence to bring of the bench whose contract is also expiring. Now that Sloan is gone and Horny has been added as a permanent assistant, I would look for the Jazz to go after perimeter scoring at the trade deadline. With AK's huge expiring contract, the Jazz would be absolute idiots not to do so. This move would also insert Gordon Hayward into the starting lineup at Small Forward. From Houston's prospective, they would be getting a huge expiring contract in AK and the veteran Bell for next to nothing. Bell would go to the Rockets in exchange for their trade exception to make room for both Martin and Battier. New Jazz depth chart:

PG: Deron Williams, Earl Watson, Ronnie Price
SG: Kevin Martin, C.J. Miles
SF: Gordon Hayward (who needs more minutes), Shane Battier
PF: Paul Millsap, Jeremy Evans (who definitely needs more minutes), Mehmet Okur (if he ever gets healthy again)
C: Al Jefferson, Kyrylo Fesenko, Francisco Elson

I really like that depth chart. With Martin (an over 20/game scorer) in the backcourt, D-Will would basically become impossible to guard. If teams put their best backcourt defender on Williams, Martin would expose the other defender's weaknesses. A perimeter shooter/scorer like Martin would make Big Al incredibly effective. Hayward would be the fifth starter, as he would not be expected to carry a lot of the scoring load. He would just be expected to play defense, hustle, get "garbage points", etc. (which is a perfect role for a talented rookie). Battier would give us another veteran presence on the bench, which would solidify it. He also has outside scoring ability.

Holy crap that is an awesome defensive team.










*sarcasm*
 
I am always in favor of trades that are lop-sided in our favor. Git'r'done KOC!!! Chop chop!
 
Even if Houston was looking to move Martin, they're not going to do it for a straight salary dump.
 
I am always in favor of trades that are lop-sided in our favor. Git'r'done KOC!!! Chop chop!

If you're going to bring an idea, it had better not be lopsided for the other team. THOSE I don't understand.

I've proposed this before. But that was under the assumption that the Rockets winning percentage stayed the same or got worse, but they've been competitive even if they're still under .500. It's not going to happen.
 
If you're going to bring an idea, it had better not be lopsided for the other team. THOSE I don't understand.

I've proposed this before. But that was under the assumption that the Rockets winning percentage stayed the same or got worse, but they've been competitive even if they're still under .500. It's not going to happen.

I don't understand those either. Really the only trades worth a damn are trades that pretty much bring equal value to both teams, at least those are the more realistic ones. Obviously it can't pan out perfectly, but obviously lop-sided trades for either side are just ridiculous.
 
Unless of course your the lakers and you have a planted mole inside of the organization you're bartering with...
 
I don't understand those either. Really the only trades worth a damn are trades that pretty much bring equal value to both teams, at least those are the more realistic ones. Obviously it can't pan out perfectly, but obviously lop-sided trades for either side are just ridiculous.

Of course.
 
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