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Zach Lavine's rise to greatness

King Cy said:
MCW is a do-it-all kind of guard though. LaVine doesn't play that style where he just rakes up rebounds, assist, or even FT attempts. I think he would average a point or 2 more while taking 2-3 more shots and shooting worse %.
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My argument was just: in the right situation you can do pretty ludacris stats with limited talent. And that's not saying that LaVine is a slouch. Just that I don't see him having that opportunity in Minnesota yet with the amount of talent that will see exposure.
 
BTP said:
My argument was just: in the right situation you can do pretty ludacris stats with limited talent. And that's not saying that LaVine is a slouch. Just that I don't see him having that opportunity in Minnesota yet with the amount of talent that will see exposure.
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I think it has less to do with the talent around him and more with the green light.
 
Hack said:
The only thing you are doing right now is providing proof in the future that your statistics don't tell the whole story about a player. Especially not the ones you provided. And actually can be quite misleading.

So no, that does not help.
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I never said that statistics tell the whole story about the player. I said something quite contrary to that, and your error in comprehension lets me know how far off you are here.

What I said was, in the field of sports statistics, there are various measurements of achievement, all of which have something to do with the individual player's teammates. Some of these statistics acknowledge and adjust themselves for team play better than others. Inherent in all of these points is the notion that statistics are just one way to help support claims about an individual players performance.

This is extraordinarily basic stuff, dude.

Back on topic: As far as statistics are concerned, there is no way to build a good case for Zach LaVine right now. His supporters are riding on the euphoric waves of "potential". Most of them are dazzled by his raw athletic abilities. But, raw athletic abilities don't guarantee success in the NBA.

So, what's your evidence about Zach Lavine & His Sure Thing?? Pls, dude, what's your evidence? Do you have more than one month of games (particularly the last month of the regular season when there are plenty of stat-stuffing games to be played)? What else you got?
 
NAOS said:
I never said that statistics tell the whole story about the player. I said something quite contrary to that, and your error in comprehension lets me know how far off you are here.

What I said was, in the field of sports statistics, there are various measurements of achievement, all of which have something to do with the individual player's teammates. Some of these statistics acknowledge and adjust themselves for team play better than others. Inherent in all of these points is the notion that statistics are just one way to help support claims about an individual players performance.

This is extraordinarily basic stuff, dude.

Back on topic: As far as statistics are concerned, there is no way to build a good case for Zach LaVine right now. His supporters are riding on the euphoric waves of "potential". Most of them are dazzled by his raw athletic abilities. But, raw athletic abilities don't guarantee success in the NBA.

So, what's your evidence about Zach Lavine & His Sure Thing?? Pls, dude, what's your evidence? Do you have more than one month of games (particularly the last month of the regular season when there are plenty of stat-stuffing games to be played)? What else you got?
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You are just gonna have to take my word for it.
 
LaVine ignores Gorgi Dieng, who has Aaron Brooks posted, and LaVine takes a contested jumper that misses, announcers rip into his IQ lol.
 
Hack said:
Somewhere around 18/4/5 this year. Maybe more. Then will go up above 20 ppg in a year or two. He could average above 20 this year. Wouldn't surprise me. On good percentages too.

He's certainly a much better rebounder than 1 a game NAOS projects him to have. Also more assists.
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18-4-5 this year?
Basically Hayward stats??

By the way i Picked him 170th overall during 13th round in my fantasy nba team.


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Hack said:
You are a strange person
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ok. I'll give you that one.

I noticed you were referencing my logic and Andrew Wiggins. Should we start talking about him now? You want to start the thread? Or should we just do it here?
 
King Cy said:
Playing with LaVine must be hard.
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Nope. Not the case at all. Been watching the entire game.

They are just looking at some things with the lesser players. Trying out players that won't be seeing the floor. Going through people they won't be going through.

When the regular season starts things will be different. I thought you knew that. Are you a newbie to NBA?
 
Hack said:
Nope. Not the case at all. Been watching the entire game.

They are just looking at some things with the lesser players. Trying out players that won't be seeing the floor. Going through people they won't be going through.

When the regular season starts things will be different. I thought you knew that. Are you a newbie to NBA?
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So when he plays full minutes he is going to go 3-14?

Regular season defense gets tougher. If LaVine cant make shots now he aint going to make shots ever. Bad shooting% season coming.
 
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