Evolution - A serious question.
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NAOS
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did you ever state what your opinions were? I'd be really interested in reading those.
RJF
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Heres a thought that just popped into my head: is the reason so many religious people(no matter the denomination) oppose/believe homosexuality is a sin because they've been taught that people are created in the image of God. And being born gay isn't possible because it would completely shatter that theory?
It's circular.
Can't tell if serious...
I'm currently taking a biological anthropology class and we are studying this very thing. I see why DarkwingDick didn't want to finish reading my first post.
Darkwing Duck
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Hope you're enjoying it!
I think you should watch Interstella... it presented an interesting, albeit controversial theory...
NAOS
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serious
♪alt13
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Careful, the devil uses science to make gays.
This is just my view, as unfinished and raw as it may be.
I see everything as being in a constant state of change. I see it as more than just circular, but maybe a spiral because you don't end up in the same spot. There is no "beginning" and no "end" because there is constant change and/or growth. We as humans have a hard time understanding the concept of no beginning, no end, and words like forever because our frame of reference is that we fall apart and die and that is seen as an end from our point of view. It is really only a change.
I don't know if this idea fits in with the evolution type theories out there, but that seems to be one of constant change as well, and in my opinion the idea of evolution for me does not mean there is not a God out there directing that change.
Sometimes I also wonder if there might be some truth to some of the reincarnation ideas where there is progression from one form to another as change occurs.
I can't believe I am saying this, but something in the Men in Black movie caught my attention and has made me think. The whole premise of the movie is looking for some galaxy, that turns out to be a marble in the bag of some other enormous being. It makes me think about how things at a cell level behave in their own environment/universe, and how atoms and particles that make up atoms behave and their own environment/universe, and how in many ways the characteristics are very similar to how we see start/planets/solar systems/galaxies behave in their own environment/universe. If there are smaller and smaller universes or "ecosystems" or whatever, is it possible that there are also larger and larger ones that we don't know about? When it comes down to it, we as humans know very little of what there is to know about the universe on a large scale let alone on a micro scale.
Just the idea that our world is an electron in the formation of something large not only makes me laugh, but makes me think about everything on a grander scale.
The bottom line is, we don't know, but it's fun and interesting to speculate and consider.
Oh, hi.
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Probably. I've had a few minutes to ponder life, and I take it all back. Might even edit my rash post.
olden_undercover
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Not exactly. More like, the "religious people" have interpreted select passages of scripture to mean that homosexuality transgresses God's teachings. I don't think the doctrine of being created in God's image has much, if anything, to do with that and certainly isn't threatened by the practice/tolerance/acceptance of homosexuality.
Anyway, that's kind of off-topic, isn't it?
I like this thread a lot. Not that my opinion matters or adds anything to what has been expressed, but I struggle to believe that a higher intelligence in the universe didn't start this whole thing we are trying to make sense of now, and evolution was a deliberate part of that. But, with the pretext that there is indeed a higher intelligence involved here, I struggle with the question of why this vast intelligence-- "God" seems to have stuck-- would set all of this in motion, and then, for all intents and purposes, simply move on and leave us to our devices. I mean, most spiritual/religious explanations I hear characterize us more as a science experiment than anything to me. How does our sentience figure into the whole thing, if after millions of years of sitting on this relative speck of dust pondering our existence, the only thing we've figured out how to do REALLY well is manipulate and kill ourselves and each other? Are we confusing sentience with being special, when the truth all along has been that creation itself is the point of the whole thing, and we're just a part of it, with no truly significant role to play? Does the intelligence that launched this little blue orb-shaped raft just not really care all that much what we do with ourselves? Did he/it observe long enough to see where we were headed, and then throw in the towel? Why aren't there more of us close enough by so we can talk to each other, because it seems like that would be really beneficial? I'm not asking why there isn't intervention, but why we are here at all, when it looks like the everything we know would either be better off without humanity, or at least not suffer from our absence?
Yeah, yeah-- that's where religion comes in and gives purpose to our longing for purpose, explains our reason for suffering, etc. But why? Because that's not good enough, man. I'm exhausted by this meaningless construct of a world we live in; a vague suggestion of faith-based reward doesn't cut it for me any more than the cold belief in nothing. Peeks, you said something about owing your children a better explanation than you can offer them now, and that hits home for me in a big way.
Sorry for the long post. All my sleeves have heart stains on them lately.
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Wow, great post babe. As boring and unreadable as ever, I see.
Wow, great post babe. As boring and unreadable as ever, I see.
Yea, I know how multiple sentences and thinking hurts you. I apologize for the pain I inflicted on your brain.
RJF
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What brain?
Don't bother. It's all good.