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Lamar Odom!

perfect example of how a wrong girl can ruin someone's life. really sad... :(


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LOL .. are you speaking from experience there Dong??? I do agree with this general statement though :)

(****. I didn't mean to like hotttnickkk's trash post)

Our new moderator is part of that special class of internet-******* who would find problems with women in the Lamar Odom story. Shouldn't you two be posting on some Men's Rights forums?

Anyway, hotttnickkk is part of a clique of people who decides what is permissible around here. That's great.
 
(****. I didn't mean to like hotttnickkk's trash post)

Our new moderator is part of that special class of internet-******* who would find problems with women in the Lamar Odom story. Shouldn't you two be posting on some Men's Rights forums?

Anyway, hotttnickkk is part of a clique of people who decides what is permissible around here. That's great.
LoL .. calm down bro... my post wasn't meant to be directed at any particular sex. A bad man can be just as toxic to any girl.
 
(****. I didn't mean to like hotttnickkk's trash post)

Our new moderator is part of that special class of internet-******* who would find problems with women in the Lamar Odom story. Shouldn't you two be posting on some Men's Rights forums?

Anyway, hotttnickkk is part of a clique of people who decides what is permissible around here. That's great.

lol stories i heard include guys and girls.


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Those TMZ links provided above are so depressing. It's sad that people are attracted to such trash. People who watch that sort of stuff are unconsciously poisoning their own minds. I'm sure glad those TMZ lowlifes don't have any interest in what's going on in my life or the lives of those I love.

but that kind of journalism has found a way to monetize part of the flow of webtraffic (i.e. they invented value) with their imaginations and technology. You don't think that's miraculous?

shucks guis, Joe Bag has me on HIDE. Would someone pls ask him my question^

done
 
Dear NAOS,
Yeah, as we've already established I do find that process amazing, but that doesn't mean I'm in favor of the way every person uses it. How about you? Are you offended that these TMZ capitalist pigs are exploiting the intrinsic value of yet another limited resource? Does it worry you that we might soon run out gossip because they are using up more than their share, or that the byproducts of this process might eventually cause our coastal cities to slip into the sea?
Joe
 
Dear NAOS,
Yeah, as we've already established I do find that process amazing, but that doesn't mean I'm in favor of the way every person uses it. How about you? Are you offended that these TMZ capitalist pigs are exploiting the intrinsic value of yet another limited resource? Does it worry you that we might soon run out gossip because they are using up more than their share, or that the byproducts of this process might eventually cause our coastal cities to slip into the sea?
Joe

Joe, I just wanted you to expose the fact that it isn't the process itself that inspires you, it's some particularly shiny aspect of it. It was a moral argument all along, anyway. So, here we are: good vs. bad, Apple vs. TMZ.

(And, as it turns out, my position can't be boxed-in by that caricature that you just tossed out.)

As far as this miraculous process is concerned: you can't have the "good" without the "bad"... both come from the same birth. And neither can you do anything about the moralizers and fanboys... they'll be around, barking, after the christenings.
 
Joe, I just wanted you to expose the fact that it isn't the process itself that inspires you, it's some particularly shiny aspect of it. It was a moral argument all along, anyway. So, here we are: good vs. bad, Apple vs. TMZ.

(And, as it turns out, my position can't be boxed-in by that caricature that you just tossed out.)

As far as this miraculous process is concerned: you can't have the "good" without the "bad"... both come from the same birth. And neither can you do anything about the moralizers and fanboys... they'll be around, barking, after the christenings.
I have no idea what you believe you've just proven. And on top of that I never said you could have the good without the bad. Nice try. Back into your box.
 
I have no idea what you believe you've just proven. And on top of that I never said you could have the good without the bad. Nice try. Back into your box.

You're right: you only ever said wildly enthusiastic and lopsided things (which you later tried to characterize as a "slight overstatement"). ...It seems like you might be ready to downgrade them further?

Nearly laughed my face off when you, jazzfanz's great economic regurgitator, told me to get back into my "box".
 
You're right: you only ever said wildly enthusiastic and lopsided things (which you later tried to characterize as a "slight overstatement"). ...It seems like you might be ready to downgrade them further?

Nearly laughed my face off when you, jazzfanz's great economic regurgitator, told me to get back into my "box".
I guess I shouldn’t have responded to what I thought was your lighthearted jab through alt because it has led us into the same feedback loop that has become so unpleasant and familiar every time we communicate. Your characterizations in the post above are completely inaccurate.

I have no need to convince you to see the world in the way I do because I have no doubt that for you the world works in the ways you describe. The differences in our realities are because, among other things, it’s obvious that we have a fundamental disconnect in the way we see things. I will not characterize how I believe you see the world because I’m certain I would inadvertently get some nuance that is important to you wrong, but I will tell you that I believe man has a fundamental right to exploit the world for his own use. I'll also add that unlike many people who see things this way my basis is not religion.

I recently read a book called The Four Agreements which surprised me with the eloquent way it described how I believe the world works. There's a lot more to it than this, but one of the important points is that every one of us are living our own private dream. When we are awake this dream is linear, but it is nevertheless still a dream, and that dream is our reality. It does not, and will never, match the realities that our fellow dreamers are experiencing. As a result, I believe that you have the right to see the world in the way you do. It does not bother me that you don’t think I have the right to see the world in the way I do, or that you feel like it’s necessary to insult my intelligence in order to make your points because I don't need to listen to your rants. Technology has blessed me with an ignore button and as a result I can usually avoid becoming engaged. That's what I meant by “back in your box.”
Goodbye.
 
I guess I shouldn’t have responded to what I thought was your lighthearted jab through alt because it has led us into the same feedback loop that has become so unpleasant and familiar every time we communicate. Your characterizations in the post above are completely inaccurate.

I have no need to convince you to see the world in the way I do because I have no doubt that for you the world works in the ways you describe. The differences in our realities are because, among other things, it’s obvious that we have a fundamental disconnect in the way we see things. I will not characterize how I believe you see the world because I’m certain I would inadvertently get some nuance that is important to you wrong, but I will tell you that I believe man has a fundamental right to exploit the world for his own use. I'll also add that unlike many people who see things this way my basis is not religion.

I recently read a book called The Four Agreements which surprised me with the eloquent way it described how I believe the world works. There's a lot more to it than this, but one of the important points is that every one of us are living our own private dream. When we are awake this dream is linear, but it is nevertheless still a dream, and that dream is our reality. It does not, and will never, match the realities that our fellow dreamers are experiencing. As a result, I believe that you have the right to see the world in the way you do. It does not bother me that you don’t think I have the right to see the world in the way I do, or that you feel like it’s necessary to insult my intelligence in order to make your points because I don't need to listen to your rants. Technology has blessed me with an ignore button and as a result I can usually avoid becoming engaged. That's what I meant by “back in your box.”
Goodbye.

So you've fallen headfirst into the trap of correlationism. And then added a liberal twist ('the individual's right to dream'). OK.

Since we're gettin real with one another: I do remember very clearly that it was you who started cracking personal jokes at my expense. I know you've recently gotten comfortable in this victim role (like I'm coming after you), but that's the way it happened.

But that's neither here nor there. I disagree with your values, and I've trained myself to have specific discussions about why they're wrong-footed. We probably won't have those discussions. But it'll be hard for me not to knock you off your dreamy high horse when you get up on it.
 
I feel really bad for him.

Yes he was given some great opportunity. Not only did he make a lot of money merely playing a game. But he got to play in Miami and LA for most of his career. It wasn't like he spent most of his time in sac town or minny.

But drug addiction can just be awful.

The thing I don't understand is why? You have all the money, power, and fame you could ask for. And I suppose the answer is that addiction never is anything rational. That's why it's an addiction. It overrides rational thought and reason, the brain's higher levels of thinking. Which makes me wonder how anyone ever truly breaks their addictions be it sex, drugs, etc?

Anyway, best of luck to Lamar Odom. I hope he recovers. If not, then I hope he finds peace finally.
 
I feel really bad for him.

Yes he was given some great opportunity. Not only did he make a lot of money merely playing a game. But he got to play in Miami and LA for most of his career. It wasn't like he spent most of his time in sac town or minny.

But drug addiction can just be awful.

The thing I don't understand is why? You have all the money, power, and fame you could ask for. And I suppose the answer is that addiction never is anything rational. That's why it's an addiction. It overrides rational thought and reason, the brain's higher levels of thinking. Which makes me wonder how anyone ever truly breaks their addictions be it sex, drugs, etc?

Anyway, best of luck to Lamar Odom. I hope he recovers. If not, then I hope he finds peace finally.

This, addiction to sex is real. Which may well be accompanied by fear to compromise.
 
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