Deron/Memo/Boozer or Deron/Jefferson/Millsap
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Ill go with Deron, Jefferson, Milsap. Boozer and Okur together was the combo we had for 5 years and it never got us to the finals. Right now we are in the first year of Deron Jefferson, Milsap. *I would at least like to see if they can get better together and see were they can take us.
*Of course without getting some good wing scorers then this group is doomed to be bad.
BTW this thread needs a poll.
*Of course without getting some good wing scorers then this group is doomed to be bad.
BTW this thread needs a poll.
Sloanfeld
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LOL
So a worse combo might????? If we have Deron, Memo, Boozer, we are probably in our normal 4-5 spot which may likely avoid LAL until the WCF, if they even make it that far. At least that combination would have a chance against the Spurs. This one....hell no.
D Will> CP3
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One we have right now. Millsap owned Booz even though Booz is the better player. Memo is hurt and sucks so its really D Will and Booz or Dwill, Milly and Big Al. Big Al is really coming on and finding his groove.
gregbroncs
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I'd rather have Deron, Jefferson and Memo (from before his injury problems)
Since we can't have this combo I'd rather have Deron, Millsap and Jefferson than Deron Millsap and Boozer. Especially since they also cost a lot less money.
Since we can't have this combo I'd rather have Deron, Millsap and Jefferson than Deron Millsap and Boozer. Especially since they also cost a lot less money.
fallenchicken
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Yes please. Big Al has been the only bright spot of the past few games, we need a healthy memo.
Did say that a worse combo might. And after a few years if this proves to be a worse combo then I well say we need to make a change again. But the facts are that Deron Boozer and Okur were not going to get past the Lakers. So we go a different direction. Not sure the way we went is better. But it had to happen. And may have to happen again. Lets see were this group gets us after playing together for more than a season.
So we don't lose as soon...is that your argument?
Sloanfeld
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At the rate the Lakers are going we wouldn't even need to get past them, someone else will beat them. Problem is, we are now a worse team and can't get past any of the other teams that we would have previously.
Sloanfeld
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No, I believe that was the argument of all the idiots who blamed the last regular season game loss on Boozer last season, despite him not playing. We could have got swept in the WCF instead of the semis. 'Hey, don't blame the guys who played like ****, blame BOOZER!!!!'
See my post above for an explanation of what I mean.
gregbroncs
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And if we had the same team we couldn't either. Change was required and made. Injuries and chemistry have derailed this team and the losing of Mathews for nothing.
I pray this team does not lose AK for nothing. That means even less talent with limited ways of making up for it. A small market team can not lose assets for nothing in return and stay competitive.
Is would have been my answer also Sloanfeld. I don't think we have had the time to see if this combo is better or worse than the one with Boozer. And we wont be able to see than for sure until they play together for a few years. The Jazz had a .500 record with Boozer, Deron and Memo there first year. The next year they came back and had a good one.
//r00t 4 Jazz
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Of course this current record/playoff seeding Sloany is referring to has absolutely nothing to do with the change of wing players in the off season (and no Memo).
//r00t 4 Jazz
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Good point on Booz's first 2yrs on the team.
gregbroncs
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Exactly. To him it's all about Boozer. But losing Mathews and Memo has hurt far more than changing Boozer out for Al.
Essentially. The changing of Boozer and Jefferson has been moot at best.
Fishsticks
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Yep if we had Boozer we woud still stink. The game of basketball requires shooters, pretty much the concept of the game right? Get the ball in the hole. Well we let 2 great shooters leave and the other will never play another meaningful minute the rest of his career. We are stuck with Miles who is not really a shooter as much as he is a chucker and dwill. A trade for a shooter, maybe two, would be huge and make this team very potent.
vslice02
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Deron/Memo/Boozer.
Memo's ability to stretch the floor opened up the lane for everyone - from Deron to Boozer to Brewer (52% shooter off dunks and layups).
Boozer's pick-and-roll ability gave Deron a myriad of options coming off the screen and got Memo alot of open looks from deep. Both Memo and Boozer were great passers from both the high-post and low-post - which allowed Utah's offense to flow beautifully. Memo/Boozer were vastly superior offensively to the Al/Sap combo - and I think that offensive difference is larger than the defensive advantage Sap/Al have. Memo was also one of the more clutch players in recent Jazz history, and Boozer had several clutch moments in the playoffs as well.
The big advantage I give Sap&Al is their ability to stay healthy - because 2/3 years they faced the Lakers Memo was hurt - although the one year Utah did face the Lakers at full-strength they were one shot and an LA ref screwjob away from winning that series.
If Al learns to pass and Millsap can prove to be a starter w/out wearing down midway through the season then maybe in a few years things change - but until that happens I'd give Boozer/Memo the advantage.
Memo's ability to stretch the floor opened up the lane for everyone - from Deron to Boozer to Brewer (52% shooter off dunks and layups).
Boozer's pick-and-roll ability gave Deron a myriad of options coming off the screen and got Memo alot of open looks from deep. Both Memo and Boozer were great passers from both the high-post and low-post - which allowed Utah's offense to flow beautifully. Memo/Boozer were vastly superior offensively to the Al/Sap combo - and I think that offensive difference is larger than the defensive advantage Sap/Al have. Memo was also one of the more clutch players in recent Jazz history, and Boozer had several clutch moments in the playoffs as well.
The big advantage I give Sap&Al is their ability to stay healthy - because 2/3 years they faced the Lakers Memo was hurt - although the one year Utah did face the Lakers at full-strength they were one shot and an LA ref screwjob away from winning that series.
If Al learns to pass and Millsap can prove to be a starter w/out wearing down midway through the season then maybe in a few years things change - but until that happens I'd give Boozer/Memo the advantage.
Sloanfeld
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I'm not even going to address the deficiencies in the other posts in this topic, it's just nice to see someone can make sense besides myself.
And Memo is a much better defender than most of you clowns give him credit for. It's his help defense that sucks but he's a way better man defender against opposing centers than Jeffersuck could ever dream of being. You morons see me and automatically think Boozer, get ****ing real. And LOL @ the posters who compared a rookie Deron to a sixth year all-star.
Oh wait, I forgot, Memo doesn't block as much so he's automatically garbage. Sorry, I forgot about the logic that most of you fools use.