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The 1st controversy this season.. Neto/Hood starting over Burke/Burks

candrew said:
This is pretty much a no-brainer. I don't want Burke taking shots from G-Time or Favors or Hood/Burks. I want him taking shots from Withey or Booker or Millsap.

Neto has already displayed more court vision and defensive tenacity than Burke ever has. I think you start Neto at 18-22 mpg. Give Burke 18-22 mpg off the bench and go with the 3 wing set the rest of the way.
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I agree with this 100%
 
BabyPeterzz said:
Didn't Q say the Denver line up was the regular season line up?
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Not exactly.

Quin said that he was treating the Denver game like a regular season game.
 
It's been said already, but our offensive spacing has been bad in the early pre-season. Hood spaces the floor better for Favors and Gobert, and they need every bit they can get.

Neto seems to move the ball better than Burke, he plays faster and he has more of an impact defensively.


So for the sake of pace, ball movement, spacing and defense, the Neto/Hood combo is probably part of our best line-up overall.
 
Start Neto and find yourself down during the beginning of games. Start Burke and at least you have instant offense to stay close. Burke is the better pg and should be starting. Burks should start also in my opinion, Groom Neto and Hood to fuel the bench.
 
UtahJazz32 said:
Start Neto and find yourself down during the beginning of games. Start Burke and at least you have instant offense to stay close. Burke is the better pg and should be starting. Burks should start also in my opinion, Groom Neto and Hood to fuel the bench.
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Maybe that will happen. Quin is probably sending a message to players to move the ball, play defense and shoot open 3s. Burke and Burks are ball-stoppers relatively speaking.

As for instant offense, the Jazz want space for Hayward, Favors and Gobert to operate, as that generates more efficient offense than Burke trying to go off.
 
Catchall said:
Maybe that will happen. Quin is probably sending a message to players to move the ball, play defense and shoot open 3s. Burke and Burks are ball-stoppers relatively speaking.

As for instant offense, the Jazz want space for Hayward, Favors and Gobert to operate, as that generates more efficient offense than Burke trying to go off.
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I also see your point bud!
 
I think you start the better facilitator for Hayward, Favors and Gobert. Neto seems like he might be that guy over Burke.

Between Hood and Burks I think it's a little trickier, but I like Hood to deliver the 3pt. shot so he's my choice.

But how good will the defense be for the second unit with Burks and Burke?
 
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We know what worked last year: a low usage PG with length and defense. AKA Neto, so far. Roll with what was working.


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BabyPeterzz said:
We know what worked last year: a low usage PG with length and defense. AKA Neto, so far. Roll with what was working.


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The only thing is that I don't think Neto is going to average more minutes like Exum did over Burke. I think they mostly want Neto in to start because he is better at pushing pace. Pushing pace early can lead to better starts and setting the tone early.

Also, nothing in preseason has sold me on Neto being a better defender than Neto other than against guards who have no idea how to dribble.
 
Yuck. When does Exum come back? Any chance he plays this season? He was at the practice with coach thibs in jazz gear with no crutches. He could be back by February or March. And play for a month or two. Hopefully we only have to deal with this terrible pg play for one more season.
 
b_line said:
Yuck. When does Exum come back? Any chance he plays this season? He was at the practice with coach thibs in jazz gear with no crutches. He could be back by February or March. And play for a month or two. Hopefully we only have to deal with this terrible pg play for one more season.
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I read Exum came back to the U.S. to have his ACL surgery; which I thought was mistake. I've read there are new trends in the procedure that doctors in Europe are more open to trying which are cutting recovery time down by 2-4 months.
 
silesian said:
No chance he would be disappointed to not start?
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Again in a sport where there's a certain stagma about what it means to be a bench player of course Trey would be "disappointed" to be benched. However that doesn't mean it will be a problem.
 
King Cy said:
The only thing is that I don't think Neto is going to average more minutes like Exum did over Burke. I think they mostly want Neto in to start because he is better at pushing pace. Pushing pace early can lead to better starts and setting the tone early.

Also, nothing in preseason has sold me on Neto being a better defender than Neto other than against guards who have no idea how to dribble.
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Yeah, do you mean Neto being better than Burke or Exum?

I don't think he's necessarily better than either player, but so far he brings what Exum did to the 1st unit. As for minutes, I think you're right. Keep in mind, even though Burke can't guard his shadow he was still a net positive player with the starters last season, so that might not matter.
 
In today's game Neto will have to make shots in order to be as effective of a passer as his talent level suggest. Defenses will simply back off and take away passing lanes. If he can't hit the pull up mid range jumper enough to force defenses to respect it he'll just be another high TO and/or low % chucker in PNR/iso situations. His only other option will be if he can hit 3pters at a decent clip. Otherwise he becomes an offensive liability much like Exum was last year. However unlike Exum I don't think Neto defensive play style can hold up. He's not going to be able to play that aggressive against starting PG's. He'll get killed and/or foul rate will be insane.
 
I actually think Neto is better defensively with positioning and with his hands, but the difference is that Exum has that length which trumps that.
 
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