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[DutchJazzer]

I wonder if Mr. Gandalfe would support this protest...

University of Texas students to wield sex toys in protests against guns

https://www.reuters.com/article/201...I420151013?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

hahahahahahahahahahhahaahahahhahahahahaha

im okay with people carrying sex toys as long as they don't use it to rape people with it!
and if someone got raped with a sextoy i would not try and ban sextoys

hahahaha

 

[VINYLONE]

Is the court of public opinion changing with the recent showing of mass shootings?

I don't know but I'll leave this here:

https://www.gallup.com/poll/186263/majority-say-concealed-weapons-safer.aspx

A majority of Americans, 56%, believe that if more Americans carried concealed weapons after passing a criminal background check and training course, the country would be safer.

Among key subgroups, Democrats and those with postgraduate education are least likely to believe that more concealed weapons would make the U.S. safer. Republicans and gun owners are most likely to say it would make the nation safer. Younger Americans are more likely to choose the "safer" option than those aged 30 and above.

 

[Miggs]

https://news.yahoo.com/studies-show-fewer-gun-deaths-states-strict-gun-155130336.html

Yep, but let's looser restrictions.

 

[Miggs]

Is the court of public opinion changing with the recent showing of mass shootings?

I don't know but I'll leave this here:

https://www.gallup.com/poll/186263/majority-say-concealed-weapons-safer.aspx

The court of public opinion also voted W. Potus. Twice.

 

[DutchJazzer]

so let me get this straight.

some retarded evil idiot decides to ignore laws. there is outcry in society about the tragedy that happened cus that evil idiot ignored the law
so you guys want the government to enact more laws?

i just don't get that, that is just plain STUPIDITY! laws arent the solution to this

 

[Gameface]

 

[DutchJazzer]

why are you perpetuating a myth.
the movie theathers who got shot up was a GUN FREE Theater

 

[fishonjazz]

why are you perpetuating a myth.
the movie theathers who got shot up was a GUN FREE Theater

How are theaters gun free? I never go through a metal detector when I watch movies at the theater

 

[Gameface]

why are you perpetuating a myth.
the movie theathers who got shot up was a GUN FREE Theater

Because I thought it was a funny joke.

Too soon?

 

[Miggs]

Because I thought it was a funny joke.

Too soon?

No, I loved it.

 

[DutchJazzer]

How are theaters gun free? I never go through a metal detector when I watch movies at the theater

i have been over this.
talking specifically ABOUT the one where had the shooting. on their website said it is prohibited from bringing a gun into the theater.
in effect making it illegal for law abiding citizens to carry a gun inside.


but you dont seem to care about that FACT!

 

[DutchJazzer]

How are theaters gun free? I never go through a metal detector when I watch movies at the theater

Link so you can verify: https://www.thegrandtheatre.com/corporate?tab=about


its called research bro. you may think i'm retarded. but there is a method to my madness.

disclaimer: i might have made a mistake but if i am not mistaken this is the theater the shooting took place. unless this is like a website for a theater with the same name.

seems you are 1 dense ****

Conduct Policy

The Grand Theatres are private property. If you fail or refuse to follow this Code of Conduct, you will be asked to leave the theatre, and may be banned from all The Grand Theatres. If you fail or refuse to leave when requested to do so, you will be arrested and prosecuted for criminal trespassing.

OUR THEATRE PROHIBITS
• Outside food or drink
• Smoking including e-cigarettes
• Possession of firearms or weapons of any kind regardless of whether openly or concealed, with or without a permit
• Disruptive or disorderly conduct
Examples: shouting, screaming, noisy or boisterous activities, loud music, throwing objects, running, skating, “Heelys”, skateboarding, rollerblading, cycling, interfering with the free flow of pedestrian traffic, and any conduct that reasonably could be construed as interfering with or interrupting another’s right to enjoy the movie-going experience
• Phone calls, texting, or emailing during the film
• Photographing, videotaping, or otherwise recording the film
• Inappropriate and offensive attire
• Violence, intimidation, or physically threatening behavior
• Unlawful conduct or activity
• Open containers of any alcoholic beverage except in areas specifically designated for the consumption of alcohol
• Loitering, lingering, delaying, and blocking storefronts and fire exits
• Littering
• Backpacks and other large bags
• Defacing, damaging, or destroying any property belonging to The Grand Theatres or any of its employees
• Picketing, distributing handbills, soliciting, and petitioning unless with prior written consent of The Grand Theatres management, which may be withheld within the theatre’s sole discretion.

 

[fishonjazz]

i have been over this.
talking specifically ABOUT the one where had the shooting. on their website said it is prohibited from bringing a gun into the theater.
in effect making it illegal for law abiding citizens to carry a gun inside.


but you dont seem to care about that FACT!

I understand it is prohibited. But so is bringing outside food and drink. I bring in outside food and drink all the time and if I wanted to bring a gun into a "gun free" movie theater then I could very easily. There is nothing to stop anyone from doing it.

 

[DutchJazzer]

I understand it is prohibited. But so is bringing outside food and drink. I bring in outside food and drink all the time and if I wanted to bring a gun into a "gun free" movie theater then I could very easily. There is nothing to stop anyone from doing it.

well
let me put it this way. it is riskier to bring your gun into a gun free zone, depending on state it could carry pentalties.
99.9999999% of legitamite gun owners would not risk it
sneaking in candy vs sneaking in a legal concealed gun are 2 different things.

99.9999999999% of people would sneak in candy if given oppurtunity

yet almost no gun owner would.
in effect it is a gun free zone!

seriously how many legitamte gun owners do you know, aks em the question hey bro you go to a venue and the policy says no guns allowed what do you do
a )sneak in your gun.
b) leave gun at home
c) dont go to venue.
d) pull gun on regular cheese and shoot holes in it so it becomes swiss cheese.

then you shall see.
simple gun logic bro

 

[Gameface]

well
let me put it this way. it is riskier to bring your gun into a gun free zone, depending on state it could carry pentalties.
99.9999999% of legitamite gun owners would not risk it
sneaking in candy vs sneaking in a legal concealed gun are 2 different things.

99.9999999999% of people would sneak in candy if given oppurtunity

yet almost no gun owner would.
in effect it is a gun free zone!

seriously how many legitamte gun owners do you know, aks em the question hey bro you go to a venue and the policy says no guns allowed what do you do
a )sneak in your gun.
b) leave gun at home
c) dont go to venue.
d) pull gun on regular cheese and shoot holes in it so it becomes swiss cheese.

then you shall see.
simple gun logic bro

That's generally not true. When a business says they don't allow guns there is no specific crime associated with bringing in a concealed weapon (if you have a CCL) into that establishment. If it is discovered that you have a weapon in violation of their policy they can ask you to leave. If you don't then you are trespassing. That's it.

Same goes for where you work. If your employer has a no guns policy and you bring in a concealed weapon they can fire you. And if you don't leave after being fired they can charge you with trespassing.

 

[VINYLONE]

https://news.yahoo.com/studies-show-fewer-gun-deaths-states-strict-gun-155130336.html

Yep, but let's looser restrictions.

From the 2nd paragraph of that article:

Researchers who have studied the issue argue they generally do, but with some caveats. They cannot say whether the laws, or some other factors, are the reason for a lower rate of firearm deaths and that there are exceptions.

And, yes, things are going swimmingly in locales such as Chicago, DC and Baltimore. We all know that when a criminal has decided to commit a capital offense, gun laws and legal procurement of a firearm is at the forefront of his or her thinking.

 

[VINYLONE]

The court of public opinion also voted W. Potus. Twice.

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. Please advise on the connection.

 

[VINYLONE]

More food for thought regarding mass shooting and the media:

While Trout was a little more over the top with his drawing of a connection, I stated that I'm sure there's a viable connection between mass shootings and they way they are reported. Yes, this is ONLY one study, but it's a study worth noting.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/02/health/contagious-mass-killings-study/index.html

The study, published in July the journal PLOS ONE, found evidence that school shootings and mass killings -- defined as four or more deaths -- spread "contagiously," and 20% to 30% of such killings appear to be the result of "infection." The contagion period lasts about 13 days, researchers found.

Researchers gathered records of school shootings and mass killings from several data sets and fit them into a mathematical "contagion model." The spread they found was not dependent on location, leading researchers to believe that national media coverage of a mass shooting might play a role. On average, mass shootings occur about once every two weeks in the United States and school shootings happen about once a month, the study said.

More from that article:

"We have so many semi-automatic weapons that can be easily concealed, and taken from the home and used on classmates or whoever," he said. "The real problem in (the United States) has to do with handguns being in the hands of the wrong people. But you can't blame it all on guns. (The United States) leads the Western world in nongun homicides, too."

So how does this effect suicides, as many of you folks in this thread have concerns with that:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copycat_suicide

You should also read the "journalism code" section of that wikipedia.

 

[♪alt13]

How to reduce homicide (my take)

Legalize marijuana nationally
Marijuana is a huge funding source for gangs, cartels, and is a major pillar holding up black markets

Treatment instead of prison for addicts
American prisons reprogram people for the worse. Send a junkie to prison and he comes out a junkie thug

Invest in Education
Especially in poor neighborhoods. Hopeless dead end neighborhoods are nearly as bad as prison. Some are probably worse.

Mental healthcare
I'm not just talking for psychopaths and schizophrenics. The only people that have access to quality mental healthcare are the people that least need it. There are ****loads of angry, scarred, depressed, and crazy people out there with nowhere to turn for help.

Wealth distribution across race
I don't know how but we have to close the income gap between racial groups. Equal education is key but I honestly don't think it will be enough. It's hard enough to climb out of poverty for white people.

De Facto segregation
I think that de facto segregation has serious social repercussions. My thought is that we could tackle this by offering people extra down payment assistance if they move into a zip code that is underrepresented by their race(even whites). I'm not sure that this would be constitutional but if we can do it for college students why not for FHA loans.

 

[Gameface]

****, I can't believe I slipped up and posted in this thread. Ugh.