**OFFICIAL** Game Thread: Nov 5 - Jazz @ Nuggets - 7 PM MST

[addictionary]

Spy nailed it. Keep makin'em.

Actually, thread creators should be voted over and give the majority to the ones with most fun, not to the ones that coincidentally create the threads for the games won. Gamethread creation is an art. Give it to the ones that are good at it. But come to think of it, spy will not spend time mostly on this kind of **** and go eat pizza and have fun with his girl.

 

[zyzz]

Goberted

 

[fishonjazz]

No doubt. Trey Burke's steal which led to a clear path, and his three-pointer which extended Jazz lead to 4 were also a lot bigger than what they'd appear on the box score.

Play of the game imo

 

[fishonjazz]

The Burks hate around here is crazy to me.

Yep
Even hack, mr never give up on any young player, has given up on Burks for some reason and thinks Burks is done improving, run out of potential (at 24 years old), and can only do hoodini shots and nothing else.
Even thinks trading Burks plus other assets and taking back a bad contract for Evan ****ing fournier is a good idea

Smd

 

[Game6Conley]

The Burks hate around here is crazy to me. We have one ****ing player on this team that puts serious pressure on the defense, and we want to get rid of him why? I get he's not a terribly en vogue type of player, but he's damn good and he's on a nice contract.

He played point tonight if I'm not mistaken, based on minutes allocation. Either way, he did the job and still think he's capable as a ball-handler.

It's clearly just a select few posters trying to keep their old twisted narratives alive, not anything valid.

That trade thread involving Burks Burke (and 1st round picks) for Fournier and Channing Frye's ****ty contract is just heinous.

The caps about to blow up to 90 mil -- Burks at 10 mil, with the versatility and upside he still offers is a damn good contract..




8 assists speaks for itself..

 

[Stoked]

I don't hate Burks. Far from it. He is elite at slashing getting tot he rim and to the FT line. Very good player that way. I just think that he is the most attractive piece that the Jazz can use to get the shooter they need.

 

[Revolution 9]

I don't hate Burks. Far from it. He is elite at slashing getting tot he rim and to the FT line. Very good player that way. I just think that he is the most attractive piece that the Jazz can use to get the shooter they need.

I'm about to watch the game. A little scared after reading some of the comments here. People acting like their eyes hurt from watching the mess to how great we played.
Not sure how much I'll enjoy this...

 

[Stoked]

I'm about to watch the game. A little scared after reading some of the comments here. People acting like their eyes hurt from watching the mess to how great we played.
Not sure how much I'll enjoy this...

It's frustrating till the 4th.

 

[colton]

Burks style of play is a cancer on the team. He needs to be traded. It will be a Kanter trade-esque boost when we trade him.

Perhaps you spoke too soon??

 

[Game6Conley]

I'm about to watch the game. A little scared after reading some of the comments here. People acting like their eyes hurt from watching the mess to how great we played.
Not sure how much I'll enjoy this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkdmu2M7qFo

Really wasn't as bad as some here have said, even giving 3 points, this was in hand before crunchtime..

 

[colton]

I genuinely believe our offense would be better without Burks.

Those last two games make want to stop watching basketball all together.

And perhaps you two spoke too soon as well?

 

[fishonjazz]

I don't hate Burks. Far from it. He is elite at slashing getting tot he rim and to the FT line. Very good player that way. I just think that he is the most attractive piece that the Jazz can use to get the shooter they need.

Fair enough.
Fwiw Evan fournier is shooting 34% from three on the year. (Though he is having a nice year and is only 23)

I remember Burks dropping 34 points on the nuggets and watching fournier attempt to stop him.... To no avail.

(This is not directed at you stoked. Just want to get that out of the way)

 

[Stoked]

Fair enough.
Fwiw Evan fournier is shooting 34% from three on the year. (Though he is having a nice year and is only 23)

I remember Burks dropping 34 points on the nuggets and watching fournier attempt to stop him.... To no avail.

(This is not directed at you stoked. Just want to get that out of the way)

Yeah Burks is amazing when he is on. Which is happening more and more often. I don't want to trade him. But I think the Jazz might need to. If that makes sense.

His slashing and rim gymnastics is a thing of beauty lol

 

[colton]

Yeah Burks is amazing when he is on. Which is happening more and more often. I don't want to trade him. But I think the Jazz might need to. If that makes sense.

His slashing and rim gymnastics is a thing of beauty lol

I'm hoping that last night is an indication that he's flipped a switch in his mind and now understands that driving and dishing will make this team's offense come alive. I was super impressed.

 

[fishonjazz]

Yeah Burks is amazing when he is on. Which is happening more and more often. I don't want to trade him. But I think the Jazz might need to. If that makes sense.

His slashing and rim gymnastics is a thing of beauty lol

The good thing is that even when he isn't on he still plays with allot of effort and energy and can still do damage simply by getting to the line and getting the other team in foul trouble.

And yes, I get what you are saying about needing to trade him as you and many others think he doesn't "fit"

You might be right. I'm not sure how he does or does not fit yet. It will play itself out this year I think

 

[Game6Conley]

Did Mudiay convince anyone here that he's a better PG prospect than Dante Exum last night?!

Spoiler

Now he's only on pace for 459 turnovers

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And perhaps you two spoke too soon as well?

Still think he could be traded for a better fit.

 

[Stoked]

The good thing is that even when he isn't on he still plays with allot of effort and energy and can still do damage simply by getting to the line and getting the other team in foul trouble.

And yes, I get what you are saying about needing to trade him as you and many others think he doesn't "fit"

You might be right. I'm not sure how he does or does not fit yet. It will play itself out this year I think

I think he can absolutely fit. The problem is who else do we trade to try and get the other shooter we need? Burke? Ingles? Hood? Lyles? I'd rather trade Burke, Ingles and Lyles but I doubt that will get the job done.

So Burks fits but another shooter fits better.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It's clearly just a select few posters trying to keep their old twisted narratives alive, not anything valid.

That trade thread involving Burks Burke (and 1st round picks) for Fournier and Channing Frye's ****ty contract is just heinous.

The caps about to blow up to 90 mil -- Burks at 10 mil, with the versatility and upside he still offers is a damn good contract..




8 assists speaks for itself..

So do the other games where he got 3 assist in 4 games also speak for themselves?

 

[fishonjazz]

So do the other games where he got 3 assist in 4 games also speak for themselves?

Burks assists per game per 36 minutes this year... 2.9

Hayward, 2.4.

Rebounds? Burks at 5.5
Hayward at 3.4

Field goal percentage? Burks at 43
Hayward at 38

3 point percentage? Burks at 40
Hayward at 33

Free throw percentage? Burks at 79
Hayward at 74

Steals? Burks at 1.1
Hayward at 0.9

Turnovers? Burks at 1.8
Hayward at 2.2

Blocks? Burks at 0
Hayward at 0.2

Points? Burks at 20
Hayward at 16

Plus Burks is younger and cheaper

I didn't realize Burks was having that good of a year or that Hayward was struggling that much.
Of course Hayward might be banged up and the sample size is very small so it might not mean much