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I need a new car: crowd sourcing JFC for recommendations and warnings

VINYLONE said:
Lot's of good reco's in this thread. I currently have a Mazda and will prolly get a Subie once the Mazda 3 is donezo. It sounds like OP wants a vehicle that is about to navigate somewhat rough terrain and has decent gas mileage. I think most Toyota pickups fit that bill.
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The new Chevy Colorado is getting rave reviews. A quick search of comparisons with the Toyota Tacoma shows that it comprehensively beats the Toyota and they all put it at a better value to boot. Nice to see such great vehicles coming out of the U.S. lately.
 
str8line said:
The new Chevy Colorado is getting rave reviews. A quick search of comparisons with the Toyota Tacoma shows that it comprehensively beats the Toyota and they all put it at a better value to boot. Nice to see such great vehicles coming out of the U.S. lately.
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Aren't tundra and Tacoma us made as well?
 
b_line said:
Aren't tundra and Tacoma us made as well?
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The Tundra is made in San Antonio. Tacoma not sure, but the engineering of Japanese cars is Japanese usually and American companies have improved to the point where they can compete with even the German cars in driving dynamics. Love the new Mustang GT350 and Caddy CTS-V and of course the illest, the ZO6 Vette.
 
str8line said:
The new Chevy Colorado is getting rave reviews. A quick search of comparisons with the Toyota Tacoma shows that it comprehensively beats the Toyota and they all put it at a better value to boot. Nice to see such great vehicles coming out of the U.S. lately.
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The Tacoma and Tundra are built in the U.S. Ignore anything that says the Chevy is a better value unless you never plan to resell. I have owned three Tacomas, and the resell is crazy. I purchased each one new and kept for 4 to 5 years and sold for 2500 to 3000 less than I paid new. Until this trend changes, I will only buy new Toyotas. I have started buying 4runners and they are awesome. Fully buily in Japan plants that always win awards for best quality in the world. Just look at all the high mileage 4runners available for sale. They just keep going.

When I bought my first Tacoma I could have bought a full loaded ext cab v6 ranger for the same price as my 4 cyl regular cab tacoma. When I sold my book value was $3000 higher.

My first truck was a Silverado, had so many problems I sold quickly. Took a huge loss.
 
JAZZGASM said:
The Tacoma and Tundra are built in the U.S. Ignore anything that says the Chevy is a better value unless you never plan to resell. I have owned three Tacomas, and the resell is crazy. I purchased each one new and kept for 4 to 5 years and sold for 2500 to 3000 less than I paid new. Until this trend changes, I will only buy new Toyotas. I have started buying 4runners and they are awesome. Fully buily in Japan plants that always win awards for best quality in the world. Just look at all the high mileage 4runners available for sale. They just keep going.

When I bought my first Tacoma I could have bought a full loaded ext cab v6 ranger for the same price as my 4 cyl regular cab tacoma. When I sold my book value was $3000 higher.

My first truck was a Silverado, had so many problems I sold quickly. Took a huge loss.
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True on resale but this truck could be different. Look at resale on the full sized trucks from the U.S. It's really good. Japanese quality is excellent for sure. But all car companies are becoming very good on quality, the market perception is a little slow to react though.
 
str8line said:
True on resale but this truck could be different. Look at resale on the full sized trucks from the U.S. It's really good. Japanese quality is excellent for sure. But all car companies are becoming very good on quality, the market perception is a little slow to react though.
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US quality has been up for quite a while, but public perception is VERY slow to react. I personally wouldn't touch a Chevy or Dodge again based on family and personal experience, but I like Ford trucks, and their full size resale is good. The Tacoma has owned the market for so longx and the quality has been consistently good.

Toyota also does an amazing job (comparatively) standing behind their products. My 03 4runner has a free dash replacement due to excessive cracking. Plenty of other examples of amazing service post warranty. No car is perfect, but I have see Toyota do a lot to keep customers happy.
 
JAZZGASM said:
US quality has been up for quite a while, but public perception is VERY slow to react. I personally wouldn't touch a Chevy or Dodge again based on family and personal experience, but I like Ford trucks, and their full size resale is good. The Tacoma has owned the market for so longx and the quality has been consistently good.

Toyota also does an amazing job (comparatively) standing behind their products. My 03 4runner has a free dash replacement due to excessive cracking. Plenty of other examples of amazing service post warranty. No car is perfect, but I have see Toyota do a lot to keep customers happy.
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This all changes when you start talking about diesel trucks. Tacoma is a great vehicle, but the ram diesels hold their value just as well. I bought a 2007 ram 2500 diesel in 2008 for $29,000 and it is still worth Ober $20,000 7 years later.
 
The Colorado is supposed to have a small diesel engine for 2016, that is the only reason I would buy that truck over the Tacoma right now.
 
I have to disagree on the Chevy quality. Granted I'm fairly biased, but we've never had trouble with a Chevy vehicle. On the flip side, we bought a Passat back in 06 or 07, and have had nothing but problems with it. I would love to buy a Ford pickup someday, but the Chevy dealership is 5 minutes away, and all of the other dealerships are over 30 minutes away. When you live on a farm and don't have very much spare time to get to a dealer for the little things like oil changes, it makes a difference.
 
b_line said:
This all changes when you start talking about diesel trucks. Tacoma is a great vehicle, but the ram diesels hold their value just as well. I bought a 2007 ram 2500 diesel in 2008 for $29,000 and it is still worth Ober $20,000 7 years later.
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Shoot man, even my Ram 1500 only lost about $6000 in value from when I bought it to when I sold it over a 7 year period. PIckup prices are just high right now. The Tacoma resale is ridiculous though. Hard to justify that much money for a vehicle with that many miles, imo. We had the same thing with my wifes CRV. Sold it for well above KBB value because so many people were interested in it.
 
Anyways NAOS, buy a little pickup (Tacoma, Colorado, anything but a Honda, etc), get a topper, and then do this with it. I think it would work great for what you want. Put a spacing kit on it for a little more clearance without looking like a huge douche with a little dick, and you'll be set.

https://sfglobe.com/?id=15790
 
Howard said:
Anyways NAOS, buy a little pickup (Tacoma, Colorado, anything but a Honda, etc), get a topper, and then do this with it. I think it would work great for what you want. Put a spacing kit on it for a little more clearance without looking like a huge douche with a little dick, and you'll be set.

https://sfglobe.com/?id=15790
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Buying a used pickup when you don't actually need it is stupid imo. It's more money for something that doesn't fit your needs. Then he should spend even more money turning it into a less comfortable version of an SUV? No.

I have a pickup because I needed it when I bought it and it's paid off. If I was looking today I wouldn't buy one, when I could get an SUV for less.
 
♪alt13 said:
Buying a used pickup when you don't actually need it is stupid imo. It's more money for something that doesn't fit your needs. Then he should spend even more money turning it into a less comfortable version of an SUV? No.

I have a pickup because I needed it when I bought it and it's paid off. If I was looking today I wouldn't buy one, when I could get an SUV for less.
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Get what will be the most practical for you. A truck has a lot of utility over an SUV. Right now I have two 4runners, and miss having a Tacoma sometimes. Although, I don't miss having a truck when a friend needs to move :).
 
I have a 93 ford turbo diesel, a 2007 ram with a cummins, a 2009 ford escape and a 2009 vw jetta diesel wagon. I love them all, but my favorites are the vw and the ram. The fords are just alright.

If I had all the money in the world, I would buy a brand new Chevy diesel truck, a vw diesel wagon and a brand new 4 runner.
 
♪alt13 said:
Buying a used pickup when you don't actually need it is stupid imo. It's more money for something that doesn't fit your needs. Then he should spend even more money turning it into a less comfortable version of an SUV? No.

I have a pickup because I needed it when I bought it and it's paid off. If I was looking today I wouldn't buy one, when I could get an SUV for less.
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this is precisely what I'm thinking. The quality, price, and availability in the used market is better for a 4runner than a tacoma... to a shocking degree.
 
NAOS said:
this is precisely what I'm thinking. The quality, price, and availability in the used market is better for a 4runner than a tacoma... to a shocking degree.
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Probably because the 4runner is ugly as sin. But that wouldn't keep me from buying one.
 
NAOS said:
this is precisely what I'm thinking. The quality, price, and availability in the used market is better for a 4runner than a tacoma... to a shocking degree.
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The Tacoma was IT for the midsize market for a long time. No competition=high demand for used vehicles in that segment.
 
I've had a 1998 Chevy K1500 with a 5.7L, a 2000 Silverado 1500 with a 5.3L, a 2003 GMC Duramax, and now a 2013 Ford F350 Dually. They have all been incredibly trouble-free, except I had to replace the injectors on the Duramax at 75,000 miles due to known issue. GM had extended the warranty to 8 years on the injectors but of course they went bad on me at 8.5 years. Cost me $4500 but I sold the truck for close to $20,000 after owning it for almost 10 years. The Ford hasn't had a single problem since new(23,000 miles).
 
If I was you, I'd go with a 2016 Chevy Duramax fully loaded and lifted. Chevy's are great trucks. Lots of power.

4 runners are gutless. They look ok, and run forever, but feel cheap and are slow and don't tow heavy **** good.

I guess it comes down to what do you need more. A truck that actually does truck stuff, or a truck that can rock crawl and get good gas mileage while doing it.

Buy the real truck (a chevy) then buy the Toyota too, and tow the Toyota to where you want to play with it. Makes sense to me. Buy both.
 
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