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Repair idea for Hayward

franklin said:
People actually keep track of this kind of ****e?
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Yes. I have every poster's hate-rank for every Jazz player in a spreadsheet. You're 87th biggest hater of Hayward on the site, if you're wondering.
 
fishonjazz said:
I'm certain that Burks and hood (both very good scorers) would still be able to score without Hayward out there to hold their hand.

I wonder if there were thunder fans that said that harden was only a good scorer because defenses were focusing on durant and Westbrook.
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I think when Spoelstra & Blatt start focusing all their attention on D-Fave like they were on Hayward then the offense will start going crazy with Burks. The problem is, we do not have a one two punch like Durant and WB. They can guard Favors double team or they can guard Hayward double team like in that loss a couple nights back. Can you imagine what Burks would do if they double team both Hayward and Favors? Guy would go for like 40 average a game. It would be crazy seeing Burks on the Thunder.
 
fishonjazz said:
So you think when Hayward is on the bench resting or missing the game with an injury that the other team is still focusing on stopping him? I find that hard to believe.
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I will appreciate it if you don't put words in my mouth. Saying that teams aren't game-planning specifically to stop Hood or Burks is not the same thing as saying that Hood and Burks can't score when Hayward isn't on the court. I said the former. Not the latter.
 
Gonna go ahead and not train akirac73;1148445 posts for a while. Anyone else is welcome aboard. I'm sick of the same **** every season. Hayward adds something to his game, takes a bit to adjust and starts playing well in January and still manages to get 19, 5 and 4. Yet here is this idiot trolling everyone decrying the downfall of Gordon.

The team still sucks outside of the top 4. Hood and Burke have been passable, but they aren't great. You want to have a good chance of beating the jazz? Throw your best defender and double on Hayward. It's pretty much the entire offense, and only derrick and Alec have been able to score. Derrick has been awesome, and Alec still doesn't really understand team ball, but is getting better. It's going to take a legitimate spot up shooter to play to derrick and Gordons strengths. Hood is a guy who shoots a lot off the dribble. Not a spot up guy. We basically need a young Kyle Korver on this team to really move the offense along.
 
b_line said:
Gonna go ahead and not train akirac73;1148445 posts for a while. Anyone else is welcome aboard. I'm sick of the same **** every season. Hayward adds something to his game, takes a bit to adjust and starts playing well in January and still manages to get 19, 5 and 4. Yet here is this idiot trolling everyone decrying the downfall of Gordon.

The team still sucks outside of the top 4. Hood and Burke have been passable, but they aren't great. You want to have a good chance of beating the jazz? Throw your best defender and double on Hayward. It's pretty much the entire offense, and only derrick and Alec have been able to score. Derrick has been awesome, and Alec still doesn't really understand team ball, but is getting better. It's going to take a legitimate spot up shooter to play to derrick and Gordons strengths. Hood is a guy who shoots a lot off the dribble. Not a spot up guy. We basically need a young Kyle Korver on this team to really move the offense along.
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But I mean come on bro. It's like 10% of the season already like David Locke said in his famous guest appearance on the morning show with DJ and PKM the other day. 10% bro. That's like 1/10th of the season almost. How much longer are you gonna make excuse for Hayward's slow starts every season while a guy named Rodney Hood withers away on the bench?
 
franklin said:
But I mean come on bro. It's like 10% of the season already like David Locke said in his famous guest appearance on the morning show with DJ and PKM the other day. 10% bro. That's like 1/10th of the season almost. How much longer are you gonna make excuse for Hayward's slow starts every season while a guy named Rodney Hood withers away on the bench?
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Three more years.
 
KD's Framily said:
I will appreciate it if you don't put words in my mouth. Saying that teams aren't game-planning specifically to stop Hood or Burks is not the same thing as saying that Hood and Burks can't score when Hayward isn't on the court. I said the former. Not the latter.
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You said Hayward drawing so much attention is the reason that hood and Burks can have games like last night.

I disagree.
I think that without Hayward they still could have games like last night
 
I have noticed teams are really focusing on him more this year than they were last year. Word seems to have gotten out that the way to shut him down is to get physical with him. He does not get the "superstar" respect that others get, so he's getting hit a lot with no calls. He's going to have to figure that out.
 
fishonjazz said:
You said Hayward drawing so much attention is the reason that hood and Burks can have games like last night.

I disagree.
I think that without Hayward they still could have games like last night
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Hayward makes it easier for them on offense because of the attention he draws. Can't deny that.

He's definitely struggling, definitely needs to play better. People calling him AK 2.0 are idiots.
 
fishonjazz said:
You said Hayward drawing so much attention is the reason that hood and Burks can have games like last night.

I disagree.
I think that without Hayward they still could have games like last night
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Hayward makes it easier for them on offense because of the attention he draws. Can't deny that.

He's definitely struggling, definitely needs to play better. People calling him AK 2.0 are idiots.
 
Howard said:
Hayward makes it easier for them on offense because of the attention he draws. Can't deny that.
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I don't deny that.
What I do deny is that hood and Burks would be unable to have games like the Atlanta game if defenses were gameplanning to stop them instead of Hayward.
It would be harder for them to have games like that but they would still be able to.
They are both good basketball players.
 
Howard said:
Hayward makes it easier for them on offense because of the attention he draws. Can't deny that.

He's definitely struggling, definitely needs to play better. People calling him AK 2.0 are idiots.
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Howard said:
Hayward makes it easier for them on offense because of the attention he draws. Can't deny that.

He's definitely struggling, definitely needs to play better. People calling him AK 2.0 are idiots.
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I got it the 1st time, and... I love you too.
 
KD's Framily said:
Burks, Hood, and Favors all took more shots than him tonight. And in the former two's case, Hayward was drawing a lot of defensive attention away from them.

Burks and Hood don't have the games they do if they receive the same attention from the defense that Hayward did.
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Anyway my point of saying that Hayward is mentally soft is because he often chokes in clutch situations and at the free-throw line down the stretch. Let's be realistic.

He is a complete player and he has to help the team to win games doing the little things like blocking shots, stealing the ball, dishing assists and not only being the man offensively. He has to accept his role.

For exemple Burke accepted his role, he stopped to play hero-ball and now he is more helpful to the team.
 
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